[PRCo] mon freight incline... on video

Wed Jun 24 18:45:57 EDT 2015

Yes, the first one is one of the experimental 6000s from the late 1920s.  PERC did a flier on it which should tell which became the diner in the late 1930s.   

On Jun 24, 2015, at 4:15 PM, Dwight Long wrote:

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> Vos ist los?
> 
> The second one, in Etna in 1952,  may be one of the PRC experimentals of the 20s.  The diner, supposedly "somewhere" on Rt 422 is a mystery.
> 
> On eBay today.
> 
> Dwight
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> -----Original Message----- From: Dwight Long via Pittsburgh-railways
> Sent: 24 June, 2015 15:31
> To: Fred Schneider ; Western PA Trolley discussion
> Subject: Re: [PRCo] mon freight incline... on video
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> Scheveningen is the beach resort town for den Haag.  It has tram service
> from den Haag.  Unfortunately I have only been there in March (via tram).
> 
> Frits' demise was a great loss.  Greatly missed.
> 
> Dwight
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> -----Original Message----- From: Fred Schneider via Pittsburgh-railways
> Sent: 24 June, 2015 13:57
> To: Western PA Trolley discussion
> Subject: Re: [PRCo] mon freight incline... on video
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> Had not realized Ed answered me two different ways … to the list and
> personally.   Second, and more detailed answer, to the list.
> 
> Yes, very early color film … a special hand-colored kind.   Notice that the
> tree leaves in front of St. Paul's Cathedral are a mix of green and black.
> The photo shopped kind of color film.   But they are fantastic early
> pictures showing Pittsburgh a century ago.
> 
> Wish I spoke Dutch (Nederlandish?) or whatever you call it.   It would be
> nice to read the captions.
> 
> The language spoken in Holland reminds me of a cross between English and
> German which no German could ever speak.   Back in my college days when I
> was forced to take German (one of three times I've labored to learn some of
> it and have forgotten it), one of the lessons was created to show how
> dialects evolve.   We were asked to translate a piece of a spoken dialect in
> the North Frishischen Islands in the North Sea, which was a very distinct
> cross between German and English … more so than the Holland Captions.
> 
> When I said that no German could ever pronounce, it was either Frits van Dam
> or his wife Renike who explained to us how a person from Holland would find
> out, during the Nazi period if the person infiltrating their neighborhood
> was Dutch or Deutsch (German).   You tricked them into pronouncing a certain
> town name ….  a coastal town north of the den Haag (the Hague) spelled
> Scheveningen.   No German can possibly pronounce it.   Neither can I but it
> is something like HLE (cough)VEN-ING-IN-EN.
> 
> Over the years I have become astonished at how we can travel from Maine to
> California on one language but a German from the Saar cannot understand a
> German from Hamburg or Munich unless they revert to Hochdeutsch (High
> German) and a chap from London speaking Cockney will never comprehend a
> bloke from Glasgow speaking Glaswegian English.    Maybe it has to do with
> how fast we populated the nation and how we all were entertained by radio,
> television and movies.
> 
> Oh, sure, you drink pop in Pittsburgh and it might be soda or soda pop or a
> soft drink somewhere else but those differences are trivial compared to how
> languages can become completely different in other parts of the world and
> stay that way for centuries.
> 
> Frits had his own comment about our English.   We once conversed about how
> many languages he spoke.   He said he was only fluent in English and Dutch
> but he got by in German and French.  When I probed more deeply, I found that
> what he meant was English and Dutch were equals … almost like two tongues
> you learn from birth.   German and French … our idea of getting by might
> mean asking for dinner, a room for the night or a rest room.  His idea of
> getting by was sitting in a restaurant and holding a conversation or writing
> a university essay..   He also "got by" in several Scandanavian tongues.  I
> remember the time he wrote saying he was reading a book in Swedish.     But
> he said we didn't need to apologize because "You can go 3,000 miles on your
> language, I can go only 50 miles on mine."     Amazing when we think about
> it.
> 
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> On Jun 23, 2015, at 9:59 PM, Edward H. Lybarger wrote:
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>> Very nice.  Presumably some early German color film?
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>> -----Original Message-----
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>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces at mailman.dementix.org] On Behalf Of Fred
>> Schneider via Pittsburgh-railways
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 8:51 PM
>> To: Daria Brashear; Western PA Trolley discussion
>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] mon freight incline... on video
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>> Very good Ms Brashear.   Thanks for posting.
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>> On Jun 22, 2015, at 11:35 PM, Daria Brashear via Pittsburgh-railways wrote:
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>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCzIQ91y_1U
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