Pittsburgh Rys 101

[Jim Holland]

Greetings!

EDWARD H. LYBARGER wrote:
> 
> I would agree with everything Ken wrote!

> But the ultimate point is that we can't call people "evil" simply for
> eliminating streetcars!

Ken Josephson responded:

> > No, but we can call them abusive IF the public funding their operation
> > are ridiculed for opposing their plans or are intimidated into accepting
> > what the public agency claims IT wants for the public rather than what
> > the public wants from it. Ken J.

Jim Holland originally wrote:

> 10)  Was Geissenheimer responsible for the bizarre paint schemes in the
> 1970's?

        Believe so!  At first I wasn't too keen about the change but it did
bring about a positive public image - many riders knew the cars by name and
number!
        The ({[PAT gray]}) paint scheme is symbolic of everything evil in PAT
and is akin to *devil red* as far as I am concerned. 

	And when taken to task about **"everything evil in PAT"** - I explained the same 
things that Kenny explained - the things that Ed agrees with - that the methods used by 
PAT were underhanded.  Ed twisted the statement **"everything evil in PAT"** into 
**"eliminating streetcars."**.  The latter was the end result of ({[PAT's]}) evil 
actions.  I have acknowledged  ALL  ALONG  DURING  THIS  DISCUSSION  that streetcars have 
seen their day and are now taking their place in history - I have acknowledged all along 
that the end for streetcars is here.  But  I  DO  NOT  LIKE  THE  EVIL  METHODS  
({[PAT]})  USED  TO  ACHIEVE  THIS  END.

Ed Lybarger has also said::
> No one holds a monopoly on abuse of power.

	Therefore, I can assume that ({[PAT]}) abused power as well (evil).
	I can also assume that  --  since what I personally said is the same that Ken 
Josephson said  --  Ed also agrees with what I said  --  even though he can't say so 
directly!

-- 
James B. Holland
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