Brill Coaches

Vigrass, Bill billvigrass at hillintl.com
Tue Nov 9 09:26:45 EST 1999


See the new issue of Motor Coach Age for a complete well written article on
Cleveland buses and trolleybuses, with good maps.  Included is a review of
streetcar service and routes that preceded the buses/trolleybuses.  It is an
excellent issue and ought to answer all the questions I have seen in these
exchanges.  Authors were Jim Toman and Blaine Hays, same people who wrote
the two volume set on Cleveland Streetcars (to which I contributed, see
first chapter of Vol. 2).   I am pleased to see the interest in Cleveland,
my home town.  Is there a website about Cleveland similar to the one I have
been reading about Pittsburgh?   
Bill Vigrass, billvigrass at hillintl.com.   

-----Original Message-----
From: Kenneth and Tracie Josephson [mailto:kjosephson at sprintmail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 1:57 PM
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
Cc: etb-list at sfu.ca
Subject: Re: Brill Coaches


Robert E. Rathke wrote:
> 
> I took a couple of photos of trolley coaches on Superior Avenue in
> Cleveland in the mid-50's after the trolleys had been abandoned.  The
> trolley coaches were gone by the time I moved to Cleveland in the late
> 60's - anyone know when the TC's there were abandoned?

Hi Bob,

1963. To tie this in with this list's subject matter, some Illinois
Railway Museum members went to a Western Pennsylvania truck and bus
salvage yard to obtain some parts for a vintage Chicago motor coach.
They discovered a group of Cleveland trolley coaches in the yard!

BTW, I'm sure Richard DeArmond would like some copies of those Superior
Avenue pix for his trolley coach web site. Please e-mail me privately if
you can help. Thanks!

Ken J.



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