Destination Signs

[Vigrass, Bill]

Thanks. I don't recall it at all.  Bill V.

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> From: 	Edward H. Lybarger[SMTP:twg at pulsenet.com]
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> Sent: 	Wednesday, October 06, 1999 10:27 AM
> To: 	pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: 	RE: Destination  Signs
> 
> Riverview Loop was at New Eagle, where the two parallel roads (Rt. 88 and
> Chess Street) converge just south of the Maple Creek Mine tipple.  Cars
> could turn from/to either direction here.  Riverview Siding was half a
> mile
> or so north, where Rt. 88 made a 90-degree turn away from the river.  The
> siding also had the 90-degree feature!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> [mailto:owner-pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org]On Behalf Of Vigrass,
> Bill
> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 8:47 AM
> To: 'pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org'
> Subject: RE: Destination Signs
> 
> 
> Very interesting. Thanks.  I did see a car at Black Diamond Jct one time
> with the sign "Donora", but of course it was a double ended orange car
> assigned to that lineI never did ride that branch.  We were riding a
> Charleroi/Roscoe car at the time. What was "Riverview"?  I am not familiar
> with it.  Bill V.
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> > From: 	Jim Holland[SMTP:pghpcc at pacbell.net]
> > Reply To: 	pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > Sent: 	Tuesday, October 05, 1999 6:14 PM
> > To: 	pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > Subject: 	Destination  Signs
> >
> > Greetings!
> >
> > 	BLACK DIAMOND is the destination sign on 3753 at Charleroi Car
> > House; photo #PI-0348 by Harold A. Smith.  Separate information also
> > confirms that some of the *single-end* cars of the 4824-5549 series -
> > those in this group that were based at South Hills - not only carried
> the
> > full complement of local city lines but also the Black Diamond reading
> > and the full complement of interurban routings *including* the
> Washington
> > local lines.  What would a single ended car be doing with destination
> > signs for routes for double ended equipment?!?!
> > 	ROSCOE is the destination sign on 3710 heading north and coming
> > out of the Charleroi Car House; photo #N14066 from M. D. McCarter.  This
> > is the small destination sign immediately above the front center window.
> >  The sign-board handing on the front of the car simply says CHARLEROI.
> > 	CAR BARN is displayed on 3802 sitting beside the Charleroi Car
> > House; photo #PI 0353 from Harold A. Smith.  This is the sign
> immediately
> > above the center front window and is a larger sign than found on the
> > 3700-3714 series but probably not large enough to display the customary
> > CAR HOUSE destination!
> > 	LIBRARY was a standard destination sign during the heyday of the
> > interurbans but the cars turned by the substation at West Library as
> > Simmons Loop didn't exist then.
> > 	During the heyday of the interurbans, Washington and Charleroi
> > cars ran express or at least limited to Castle Shannon outbound and from
> > there inbound; the cars ran in tandem with both leaving downtown Pgh on
> > the hour and half-hour.  Shannon or 37 Shannon cars filled in all day.
> > Some time after the 3700 and 3800 series interurbans were retired,
> > destination signs were changed to read SHANNON-CHARLEROI and
> > SHANNON-WASHINGTON and the cars ran local.  Drake was never a terminal
> so
> > why PCCs carried DRAKE in addition to SHANNON-DRAKE is a mystery unless
> > it was planned that DRAKE *might* be a limited or express during the
> rush
> > hour.  SHANNON-LIBRARY or SHANNON-DRAKE was the most correct sign
> > although DRAKE or LIBRARY was often seen displayed.
> > 	SPECIAL is displayed on 3754; photo #PGH-105 from Ben Rohrbeck
> > dated 1942.04.12.  A hand-painted sign board reading National Railway
> > Historical Society SPECIAL is on the front dash, probably made by the
> > group who chartered the car.
> > 	The original PCC interurban signs read RIVERVIEW, LIBRARY, CASTLE
> > SHANNON, CANONSBURG, CHARLEROI, PITTSBURGH, WASHINGTON, CHARTERED, and
> > CAR HOUSE.  Added later were SHANNON-LIBRARY and SHANNON-DRAKE at the
> > beginning and SHANNON-WASHINGTON, SHANNON-CHARLEROI after Charleroi and
> > before Pittsburgh.
> > 	Apparently some of the 3800 series interurbans displayed MON CITY
> > and MONONGAHELA was added later.  Car 3812 also had the Washington and
> > Charleroi local signs in addition to 37 SHANNON and
> > CASTLE SHANNON-MtLEBANON SHUTTLE.
> > 	Some of the signs for the single end low-floor cars at South
> > Hills with 1928 signs had readings for the 47 McKINLEY and
> > 59 CARRICK-CARSON.
> > 	Some of the low-floor cars at Craft had 1930 curtains with
> > 79 SHADY and 81 ATWOOD.
> >
> > James B. Holland
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