October in the PA Trolley museum

[Vigrass, Bill]

Consider that we were outbound in mid morning.  I suspect that there would
have been no service in that direction at that time.  Typical RR commuter
service was inbound am outbound pm with little or no base service. I can sy
with certainty that we never considered RR service for that leg of the trip
even though we did use PRR (from a through Monongahela Railway connection)
from Brownsville to Roscoe, fare 19 cents.  Maybe Bob Leech checked the PRR,
but if so, I do not recall it.  That's a while ago.

Didn't you write a monograph on the Trafford Line?  I think I have it.  We
were trying to duplicate as closely as possible the route of the former
trolley service, and in a way, we did.  I think there was still some track
at Trafford that had been used by WP.  With four new 1600 type PCC's, the
Trafford line was greatly over serviced.  We were the only ones on the car,
so had several photo stops (at sidings where they stopped anyhow). It was a
private fan trip on a regular car. As I recall, it was rather slow and
bumpy, in an industrial landscape.
Bill.
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> From: 	Derrick J Brashear[SMTP:shadow at dementia.org]
> Reply To: 	pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Sent: 	Wednesday, October 06, 1999 11:52 AM
> To: 	'pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org'
> Subject: 	RE: October in the PA Trolley museum
> 
> On Wed, 6 Oct 1999, Vigrass, Bill wrote:
> 
> > I dunno about what train service there was.  We had planned to take a
> > Llincoln Transit bus from Trafford to Irwin, but we missed it (it did
> not
> > run very often) so took a cab.  With three of us, it wasn't much per
> person,
> > except that at that point in our lives, we didn't earn much, so anything
> > more than a few dollars was a burden.  West Penn cars still went to
> Larimer
> > on some trips, but for the trip we connected with, we got a car that
> ended
> > its trip in Irwin.  It was a 280-290 type car, as I recall. What RR
> service
> > might there have been, PRR?  Bill.
> 
> There was frequent PRR service from Pittsburgh to Derry (east of Latrobe)
> apparently until 1963, which passed through Trafford, a bit further down
> the road from where the 62 loop was. There was also service from North
> Trafford station, basically just below the Trafford Viaduct, to
> Pittsburgh, but not east. Some theorize that the 63 Trafford Express
> (which was apparently discontinued before 1930) never became popular
> because for people going to town the railroad was available. I don't know
> the truth of it. 
> 
> The 63 Trafford Express incidentally approximates the 67F Trafford bus
> route I now use.
> 
> -D
> 
>