More "Carbarn Sally" Pix on Dave's

Mon Sep 27 19:50:03 EDT 1999

Regarding "shared space" businesses in the Loews Penn block...don't
forget the man who sold soft pretzels out of a basket on Sixth Street, at
the alley just south of the main entrance to the Loews Penn.  

Bob 9/27

On Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:15:49 -0500 (EST) Carl Zager
<czager at bloomington.in.us> writes:
>Robert,
>
>You are right -- the Mayflower -- and its the second time someone has 
>had
>to refresh my memory about its name.
>
>You've also given me a modeling hint. Sometimes we forget how often
>buildings were multiple use in urban areas. We think of the strip mall 
>or
>shopping center as a "modern" phenomenon, but shared or leased space 
>has
>always been with us.
>
>The Sixth/Penn corner of that building (before Heinz Hall) might even 
>have
>been a separate structure with a common exterior. I know the theatre 
>did
>not use that corner anywhere in the interior, except for a small 
>office
>off the lobby near the elevator shaft. I think there was at least one
>other shop between the Mayflower and the Sixth Street main entrance. 
>That
>entrance led past the concession stand to the big marble staircase. 
>The
>lobby then opened up towards the Penn Avenue exit doors. The 
>auditorium
>itself stretched from Penn to the alley between Penn and Liberty and 
>from
>the lobby to an alley between Sixth and Seventh.
>
>The modeling hint? Signs in second floor windows representing 
>businesses
>different from those on the street floor.
>
>On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Robert E. Rathke wrote:
>
>> I used to ride the buses and trolleys from Spring Hill to Duquesne
>> University, and spent many mornings at Sixth and Penn looking at 
>that
>> theater corner while I waited for the 22 Crosstown trolley to arrive
>> southbound on Sixth Street.  At that time, the coffee shop in the 
>corner
>> of the Loews Penn Building was the Mayflower, and the White-Haines
>> Optical Laboratory was on the second floor.  Funny how you remember 
>old
>> signs.
>> 
>> Bob 9/24
>> 
>> On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 10:08:05 -0500 (EST) Carl Zager
>> <czager at bloomington.in.us> writes:
>> >While we're thanking Ken and Dave for the new photos, I thought I 
>> >might
>> >jump in (despite promising to lurk) with this:
>> >	http://davesrailpix.railfan.net/pitts/jpg/pitt467.jpg
>> >The PCC inbound on Penn, turning left on Sixth Street
>> >prompts these memories --
>> >The background building is the Roosevelt Hotel. For many
>> >years the Pittsburgh Steelers offices and headquarters
>> >were in the Sixth Street side of the hotel, just left
>> >and out of the picture. My mother was a desk clerk,
>> >stationed in the lobby accessible under the canopy in the
>> >top right corner.
>> >The corner visible bottom right is currently Heinz Hall.
>> >In our days (late 50's, early 60's) there was a restaurant
>> >in that corner of the Loew's (later United Artists) Penn
>> >Theatre. I worked for a time as an usher there -- black
>> >tuxedo in the winter, white dinner jacket in the summer.
>> >"Once the feature for which you are purchasing tickets has
>> >started, there will be no admission to the auditorium. The
>> >tickets you are currently purchasing may be used at the
>> >(time) showing later today. Thank you." _Psycho_
>> > 
>> >Thanks for the memories! I miss da Burgh.	
>> >
>> >
>> >On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Dietrich, Robert J. wrote:
>> >> Thanks Ken and Dave for the pictures.  A couple of them really 
>> >struck home,
>> >> literally.  Picture pitt537.jpg, the 1700 on 40 Mt. Washington, 
>was 
>> >taken
>> >> across the street from where I grew up and pitt501.jpg was a 
>block 
>> >away.  So
>> >> I have to ask; Do you have any more of that location, Southern 
>> >Avenue at
>> >> Natchez and Shiloh streets?  I am more interested in the 
>buildings 
>> >and
>> >> surrounding area than in the trolleys because I'm ready to start 
>> >building an
>> >> East Penn module of the neighborhood.  I want to build it as the 
>> >place
>> >> appeared in the mid fifties, my impressionable years.
>> >> 
>> >> If anyone has any more pictures, with or without street cars, I 
>will 
>> >take
>> >> them in any form.  
>> >
>> >> Thanks.
>> >> Bob
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >>  -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: 	Kenneth and Tracie Josephson 
>> >[mailto:kjosephson at sprintmail.com] 
>> >> Sent:	Tuesday, September 14, 1999 7:38 AM
>> >> To:	pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>> >> Subject:	More "Carbarn Sally" Pix on Dave's
>> >> 
>> >> Hi All,
>> >> 
>> >> Dave has posted another eighteen Roberta Hill pix on his site 
>under 
>> >the
>> >> "Ken Josephson Collection." I sent another forty two today. The 
>> >latter
>> >> batch (not up yet) features such oddities as a 1700 on Route 40, 
>an
>> >> interurban PCC holding down a night run on Route 39, a sequence 
>of 
>> >shots
>> >> showing a motorman grappling with a defective trolley pole on a 
>> >1700,
>> >> dewirements, shots from overpasses, high rises, snow shots, last 
>> >runs on
>> >> some lines (including Route 21), a group of passengers 
>transfering 
>> >to
>> >> the car in front of theirs (a breakdown, perhaps?), interior 
>shots,
>> >> M-454 at South Hills Junction, etc.
>> >> 
>> >> I also put together a group of pictures depicting the following 
>cars
>> >> still in PRCo. and/or PAT service: M-200, M-551, M-283, M-210, 
>1467 
>> >&
>> >> 1711. gee, what do all those cars have in common? ;-) 
>> >> 
>> >> There will be a photo study of M-210, Routes 21 & 40 and several 
>> >views
>> >> of Route 82. I also put together a carhouse and shop collection. 
>> >There
>> >> are shots of cars being *washed*! :-)
>> >> 
>> >> Hope you enjoy the pix when they are posted.
>> >> 
>> >> Ken J.
>> >> 
>> >
>> > Carl Zager
>> > KB9RVB
>> > czager at bloomington.in.us
>> > http://www.mccsc.edu/~czager/
>> >
>> >
>> 
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> Carl Zager
> KB9RVB
> czager at bloomington.in.us
> http://www.mccsc.edu/~czager/
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