Photo Credits

[brathke at juno.com]

Amen, Fred.  And, even if the weather was perfect, the photographer still
deserves credit for the photo he took.  George Elwood's caption policy if
the photographer is unknown (or if his name has been obliterated from the
print) is to state "Collection of..."

Glad to have you back.  And thanks to Derrick.

Bob 4/2

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On Sun, 02 Apr 2000 20:33:50 -0400 "Fred W. Schneider III"
<fschnei at supernet.com> writes:
> Guess its time to jump back in there.  I am retired.  And I'll openly 
> go on
> record thanking Derrick Brashear for driving all the way to 
> Lancaster (PA)
> yesterday, loading the software for e-mail, replacing a CD-ROM drive 
> that was
> defective, and other things.  And he wouldn't take a penny.  I hope 
> the dinner
> was really good Derrick!
> 
> And now I'll openly express my opposition to people who put their 
> names on
> other peoples' work.  I am personally appalled at the number of 
> railfans who
> feel that, simply because they bought a negative or print, that 
> there name goes
> on it.  I remember people in the days when prints were traded where 
> an
> individual would cross out the photographer's name and put his own 
> rubber stamp
> on the print, then pass it onward.  Now the internet is crowded with 
> people who
> take credit for other peoples work ... I can identify the originals 
> because I
> know the men who took them and they match speck and scratch with the 
> originals
> I have.
> 
> Common folks.  Just because you buy a Renoir or a Monet painting, it 
> does
> change the painter's name to the owner.  And photography is equally 
> an art
> form.  Fortunately, some art schools are now recognizing it.
> 
> Sadly, then Steve Carlson and I did the first PCC book, I was 
> royally chastised
> by one print collector because I was able to identify and show the
> photographer's name under the print.  It did not satisfy this person 
> that his
> name was in the acknowledgements in the front of the book.  He still 
> deeply
> felt that his name should go under the print because he had a print. 
>  It was
> even more sad because he was schooled in library science and 
> understood full
> well the copyright laws.
> 
> I also remember the story of a university prof who moonlighted as a 
> publisher.
> Authors were forced to share authorship with this individual if they 
> wanted
> this person's money to back them.  It was an easy way around the 
> university's
> publish or perish rules.
> 
> Tagging onto Josephson's remarks, the only good reason I can think 
> of for
> listing the source of the print is to make some feel good.  I still 
> believe
> that can be done well off to the side.  The chap who braved the 
> muggy summer
> days to photograph a New Orleans car or the chill of Boston in the 
> winter
> deserves credit, dead or alive.  Under current laws, his permission 
> (or that of
> his or her estate) is required if the person is alive or had been 
> dead less
> than fifty years.
> 
> Maybe some people have been very lucky that an owner has not pressed 
> a case in
> federal courts.
> 
> Kenneth and Tracie Josephson wrote:
> 
> > brathke at juno.com wrote:
> > >
> > > There's a good reason for identifying "Collection of..." along 
> with the
> > > photographer's name, especially if it's an old photo and the 
> photographer
> > > is deceased.
> >
> > Absolutely. Ken J.
> 

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