Library trolleys and Jane Bloor & Castles In Ireland etc., etc., etc

brathke at juno.com brathke at juno.com
Tue Feb 22 20:22:22 EST 2000


The lower Hill was somewhat an extension of downtown Pittsburgh, and
through the late 50s also contained homes and retail stores, not unlike
those along Fifth Avenue in that area today.  All of those
residential/comercial buildings were razed in 1959 when work started on
the Civic Arena.  And the route 82 and 85 trolley tracks were then
relocated in Centre Avenue and the lower Hill.  The woman you met on
Drake could have lived in that area.

Bob 2/22
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2000 00:22:45 +0000 Kenneth and Tracie Josephson
<kjosephson at sprintmail.com> writes:
>Castles in Ireland??? We're gonna raise the *ire* of the list owner 
>and
>*land* in trouble! ;-)
>
>Speaking of ethnicity, I brought a binder filled with several dozen
>Roberta Hill pics on the Drake shuttle during the last week. People
>clustered around me to look at the pictures and tell stories. One 
>middle
>aged white woman suddenly exclaimed, "Look! 85-Bedford! I used to live
>on Wylie and rode that all the time!" When our eyes met, she know 
>right
>away questions turning in my mind. She explained she was Jewish and 
>that
>"The Hill" was a Jewish neighborhood when she was a little girl.
>
>I don't know where the Jewish neighborhoods were or are in Pittsburgh,
>but I do know that this woman didn't look much older than me. And
>judging by Ms. Hill's photos from the '60's and my recollections as a
>child, "The Hill" has been an African-American neighborhood for a long
>time. 
>
>Then there was the little elderly guy I met at the loop who claimed he
>ran the very last 21-Fineview car, but looked as if he needed to sit 
>on
>several telephone books to sit this high in the motorman's seat:
>
>http://davesrailpix.railfan.net/pitts/jpg/kjpgh141.jpg
>
>Maybe he shrunk with age! ;-) Ken J.

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