West Penn 832

John Swindler j_swindler at hotmail.com
Fri Jul 7 15:33:19 EDT 2000


Wasn't it an exception, Ed, because it was purchased through a West Penn 
Power equipment trust rather then by West Penn Railways???  As you explained 
it several years ago, I got the impression that 832 was not scrapped because 
it was not owned outright by West Penn Railways.  That it was a leased piece 
of equipment?????  I know I have this garbled, but could you clear this up, 
Ed?  It says something about how electric railway economics were changing 
around 1930.

Thanks,
John


>From: "Edward H. Lybarger" <twg at pulsenet.com>
>Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>Subject: RE: West Penn 832
>Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 08:39:11 -0400
>
>The 832 wasn't that bad when it got here, but the local thieves removed the
>copper wiring while it sat out of doors.  It was the only car available in
>1952, having been inadvertently(?) omitted from the list of cars sold to 
>the
>scrapper.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>[mailto:owner-pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org]On Behalf Of
>Fredbruhn at aol.com
>Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 8:43 PM
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>Subject: West Penn 832
>
>
>I was under the impression that 832 was the last curved side car shopped at
>Connellsville and is why the museum picked it.  When Fred Schneider says it
>was in horrid shape when it arrived it makes me think I am totally off 
>base.
>Did the PERC have other choices on cars from WP?
>
>I do remember that the sheet metal was bad enough that John Baginsky, plus 
>I
>assume others, torn the car down to the frame, and that must have been 30
>years ago.
>
>As museums go, I will give PTM a thumbs up for the decisions the founders
>and
>directors have  taken on car acquisitions.  Remember in the beginning many
>of
>the cars came via private sourcing, e.x. Dick Boker 1138, Brown's 3756, and
>I
>am sure personal preference played a role.
>
>If you want to see the no focus, shotgun approach to museum management,
>check
>out ORM in Columbus or NORM in Cleveland.  Everything from dead steam
>engines
>to CTA 4000's, mostly stored outside.  Get everything you can, we'll worry
>about
>storing and restoring some time in the future.   The founders at NORM are
>all
>dedicated people, but looking at TTC (ex Cleveland) PCC's, Shaker (I 
>presume
>ex
>St. Louis) PCC's, a TTC small Witt, a PRCo. 1600, Airporter's from the
>original CTS'
>rapid, a NOT&L shell, and others all outside with minimal protection, did
>they need
>4000's just because they were available.   The vandals have been terrible,
>and mother nature does here work too.
>
>Fred
>

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