West Penn 832

[Fred W. Schneider III]

832 was a leased car, probably as long as West Penn Securities had some value to
depreciate.  The 800s were later sold outright to West Penn Railways.

It's kind of hard to believe the company could forget an object that large,
isn't it.

John Swindler wrote:

> Wasn't it an exception, Ed, because it was purchased through a West Penn
> Power equipment trust rather then by West Penn Railways???  As you explained
> it several years ago, I got the impression that 832 was not scrapped because
> it was not owned outright by West Penn Railways.  That it was a leased piece
> of equipment?????  I know I have this garbled, but could you clear this up,
> Ed?  It says something about how electric railway economics were changing
> around 1930.
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
> >From: "Edward H. Lybarger" <twg at pulsenet.com>
> >Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> >Subject: RE: West Penn 832
> >Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 08:39:11 -0400
> >
> >The 832 wasn't that bad when it got here, but the local thieves removed the
> >copper wiring while it sat out of doors.  It was the only car available in
> >1952, having been inadvertently(?) omitted from the list of cars sold to
> >the
> >scrapper.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >[mailto:owner-pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org]On Behalf Of
> >Fredbruhn at aol.com
> >Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 8:43 PM
> >To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >Subject: West Penn 832
> >
> >
> >I was under the impression that 832 was the last curved side car shopped at
> >Connellsville and is why the museum picked it.  When Fred Schneider says it
> >was in horrid shape when it arrived it makes me think I am totally off
> >base.
> >Did the PERC have other choices on cars from WP?
> >
> >I do remember that the sheet metal was bad enough that John Baginsky, plus
> >I
> >assume others, torn the car down to the frame, and that must have been 30
> >years ago.
> >
> >As museums go, I will give PTM a thumbs up for the decisions the founders
> >and
> >directors have  taken on car acquisitions.  Remember in the beginning many
> >of
> >the cars came via private sourcing, e.x. Dick Boker 1138, Brown's 3756, and
> >I
> >am sure personal preference played a role.
> >
> >If you want to see the no focus, shotgun approach to museum management,
> >check
> >out ORM in Columbus or NORM in Cleveland.  Everything from dead steam
> >engines
> >to CTA 4000's, mostly stored outside.  Get everything you can, we'll worry
> >about
> >storing and restoring some time in the future.   The founders at NORM are
> >all
> >dedicated people, but looking at TTC (ex Cleveland) PCC's, Shaker (I
> >presume
> >ex
> >St. Louis) PCC's, a TTC small Witt, a PRCo. 1600, Airporter's from the
> >original CTS'
> >rapid, a NOT&L shell, and others all outside with minimal protection, did
> >they need
> >4000's just because they were available.   The vandals have been terrible,
> >and mother nature does here work too.
> >
> >Fred
> >
>
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