Rebuilt 1600 series PCC cars

Jim Holland pghpcc at pacbell.net
Wed Mar 15 03:17:56 EST 2000


Greetings!

Kenneth and Tracie Josephson wrote:

> Harold Geissenheimer wrote:

> > Greetings

> > I have followed the various comments about the rebuilding of 1600
> > series cars and renumbering in the high 1700's.

> > Perhaps Ed Lybarger might help us all by listing each rebuilt
> > 1600, its new 1700 number and the date it was rebuilt.

> Perhaps this would clear up the question Jim Holland has raised about
> 1799(II) possibly not being 1613.

	It is PTM who finally determined that 1799 was 1613 but I don't
understand their results because for almost 20 years, it was listed as
another car.  Will have to research to find out which car it was.

> One question for Harold: Did PAT continue to apply the "PAT Gray" color
> scheme to 1700 cars after the decision was made to retain the system?

	Think the grey died with the sparkling banded color schemes for rebuilt
cars.

MORE  INFORMATION  from the March 5, 1975
	Transit Operations Division Fact Sheet No.-8:::::::

CHRONOLOGICAL  Renumberings of 1600 series as of above, without dates:::

	1616===1776
	1623===1782
	1615===1777
	1636===1783
	1635===77/54
	1603===1784
	1637===1785
	1617===1778
	1647===1779
	1643(41)===1786
	1619===1780
	1646===1781
	1628===1787
	1639===1788

RED  FRONT  PRCo colors:::::::
	1613;  1656;  1660;  1671

Half n' Half PRCo colors:::::::
	1621;  1638;  1640;  1652;  1662;  1669;  1672.

"V"  Front:::::::  1644

GRAY  &  WHITE  PAT:::::::
	1711;  1712;  1713;  1714;  1715;  1717;  1718;  1721;  1722;
	1727;  1728;  1739;  1740;  1742;  1743;  1757;  1760;
	1763;  1766;  1768;  1769;  1772;  1773.

MORE  INFORMATION  from this Fact Sheet some other time.

James B. Holland
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