Interurbans

[Greg King]

Hi Jim,

Fianlly got onto site but how do I locate "Electric Railroads" you
mentioned.

Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Holland <PGHPCC at pacbell.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: Interurbans


> Greetings!
>
> PTM (http://www.pa-trolley.org/) has a reprint of the July 1952 issue
> of *Electric Railroads* which details the Charleroi and Washington
> interurbans as well as the Washington and Donora local lines.  This is
> the source of my info.
> M-A-N-Y  on the list are members of PTM.  Ed Lybarger is the Archivist
> for the Museum and is a walking encyclopedia on West Penn (I believe his
> favorite) and PRCo.
>
> Greg King wrote:
>
> > Hi Jim,
>
> > Thanks for that, wish there was a publication on those lines.
>
> > Greg
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jim Holland <pghpcc at pacbell.net>
> > To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 1:06 PM
> > Subject: Interurbans
>
> > > Greetings!
>
> > > The 1600--series PCC interurbans were in service by mid--1948,
approx.,
> > > and the 1700s in very early 1949.  It wasn't until November 1950 that
> > > both 3700s and 3800s were removed from service.  Scrapping was as much
> > > as several years later.
> > > So the Brill and  *old*  St.-Louies (the PCCs are St.-Louies, too!)
did
> > > not last to the end of interurban service in Washington County, but it
> > > was as close to the end as possible - just 2.75-years shy!
>
> > > You know that Charleroi had local service as well to Donora.  There
was
> > > a loop at Riverview which had a leg added to it to make it a
combination
> > > loop and wye.  This was the northern terminal of the Donora local and
> > > the wye could be used by rush hour trippers from Pgh.
> > > The interurbans thru Charleroi to Roscoe and the Donora local shared
> > > trackage from Riverview on south through Monongahela on single track
in
> > > street with passing sidings.  Not long before Black Diamond Junction,
> > > the line was double track.  The interurbans cut uphill across country
at
> > > the Junction while the Donora local was side of the road for a good
> > > distance and then in the street as it essentially followed the
> > > Monongahela River.
> > > In Donora, there was a wye that was called a freight terminal.  This
> > > was not used by the local cars which continued several blocks further
to
> > > a stub end, on street terminal.  But for a period during the 1920s,
> > > every other interurban came to Donora and wyed so the people of Donora
> > > had hourly through service without transfer to Pittsburgh as did the
> > > people of Roscoe and Charleroi.  Thus, it was a 30-minute headway
north
> > > of Black Diamond Jct to Pgh and return.
>
> > Greg King wrote:
>
> > Is anybody/everybody on the list a member at Arden, I would like to chat
> > off-list about it if someone would like too.
>
> James B. Holland
>
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