[PRCo] Re: locale- 1764

John Swindler j_swindler at hotmail.com
Wed Apr 25 15:27:40 EDT 2001



I have an unfair advantage.  Family lived on Coal St. in Edgewood for most 
of 1950s.





>From: mrb190 <mrb190+ at pitt.edu>
>Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: locale- 1764
>Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 13:15:50 -0400
>
>
>Thanks!   That clears that up.
>
>Like the saying:  "it's nice to put a face to a name," it's nice to put a
>location to a photograph."
>
>Matt
>
>John Swindler wrote:
>
> > >From: HRBran99 at aol.com
> > >Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > >To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > >Subject: [PRCo] Re: locale- 1764
> > >Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 21:11:23 EDT
> > >
> > >In a message dated 4/20/01 1:26:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > >j_swindler at hotmail.com writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >To further add to the mystery, a photo in "Touring Pgh by Trolley" 
>(Harold
> > >A. Smith, 1992) has a photo taken from the opposite direction at Jane
> > >Street Loop. The line pole in the Daves photo (right/foreground) is not
> > >visible in the Smith book photo. The only pole prior to the trolley 
>track
> > >coming in from the right is two houses from that track. Thus, the photo 
>on
> > >Daves website would have some of the last house showing in order to 
>have
> > >the line pole showing. Also, the 'car stop' sign is not showing in the
> > >Smith book photo.
> > >Both photos would have been taken in the same era inasmuch as the Smith
> > >book photo shows PAT "stick-on" decals on the car shown in that photo.
> > >However, with all of this the location still remains a mystery.
> > >
> > >HrB
> > >
> >
> > No longer a mystery, as the picture on page 51 of Smith's book confirms 
>the
> > location as an inbound 64 car on Coal St. at Jane St.  The car stop sign 
>in
> > this picture:
> >
> > http://davesrailpix.railfan.net/pitts/htm/rhp194.htm
> >
> > is visible in the Smith photo at roof line of 1547, directly above the 
>'H'
> > in Hamilton.  Also see configeration of wires on pole line.  By standing 
>at
> > the curb, Roberta lined up the poles in her view.
> >
> > For comparison, this view at Euclid and Bunkerhill terminal of 71/73 
>does
> > not include a carstop sign and configeration of wires on pole line is
> > different.
> >
> > http://davesrailpix.railfan.net/pitts/jpg/pitt244.jpg
> >
> > Not helping is that both locations have headway recorder on inbound side 
>of
> > line pole before the switch, and in both cases, track area is paved with
> > 'Belgium blocks' and macadam to curb.   Also, both include a curb cut, 
>in
> > Roberta's case for older home next to Jane St. 'loop'.  (the garage was
> > behind the house)
> >
> > Also supporting the Jane St. location, Coal St. was level for first 2-3
> > blocks from this location, then encountered a one block grade to rise up 
>to
> > Rebecca St.  That matches the terrain in Hill's photo.
> >
> > John
> >
> > >PS-Settled in Cleveland................May the state of Flori-duh sink
> > >slowly
> > >into the ocean.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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