[PRCo] Re: [Fwd: Pittsburgh's Pre-PCC Interurbans]

[John Swindler]

Fred the third recently mentioned that there were 3800 series interurban 
trucks under one of the work cars acquired by PTM from PAT.  Might have been 
the spray car subsequently scrapped.  Fred's comment was from some notation 
he had seen in some PRC paperwork in the PTM archives rather then actually 
checking out the hardware collection in the PTM museum.

I think the initial question was whether the line car was the only PRC work 
car at Arden with low floor passenger car trucks.

So who are the PTM hardware specialists that can provide clarification.

John

>From: Jim Holland <pghpcc at pacbell.net>
>Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>Subject: [PRCo] [Fwd: Pittsburgh's Pre-PCC Interurbans]
>Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 01:00:33 -0800
>
>
>Greetings!!
>
>	Very interesting thought, Ken!!
>
>	Ed has said that they were rather well used by that time  --  but
>what about the 1903--1906 W&C cars still around for work service??
>
>	Probably the cost of conversion could not justify  *modernizing*
>the workcar fleet!   And the handwriting was on the wall by this
>time as well  --  trolleycars were on the way out!
>
>	Those remaining Brill and St.-Louis pre-PCC interurbans were
>officially retired in November of 1950 (that reprint from the ERA
>of July--1952 details this and the photo caption of 3712 OB at
>Wash-Jct states this fact.)
>
>	Scrapping dates::
>
>		3700 - 1952.03.28
>		3701 - 1952.03.26
>		3703 - 1951.10.19
>		3705 - 1951.11.06
>		3708 - 1952.03.06
>		3710 - 1952.03.12
>		3711 - 1952.02.22
>		3712 - 1952.02.20
>		3713 - 1952.02.11
>		3714 - 1952.04.01
>
>	Five of the above cars of this series disappeared before 1949 with
>one in that year, one in 1946, 2-in 1943, and the first one to be
>scrapped, 3706, on 1932.03.18
>
>	Ten-3800s were scrapped in Feb--March 1952, 3-in 1951, 1-in 1949,
>1-in 1948!
>
>-------- Original Message --------
>Subject: [PRCo] Pittsburgh's Pre-PCC Interurbans
>Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 10:42:25 -0800
>From: Kenneth Josephson <kjosephson at sprintmail.com>
>
>Did PRwyCo give any thought to retaining some of their last pre-PCC
>interurbans and converting them to work equipment? When were these
>cars
>scrapped? Ken J.
>
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