[PRCo] PRCo__1600____The__Queen__Mary

[Jim Holland]

Good Morning, Fred!

	Tried to make it clear in my original post that there was  *presumed*  evidence
but it was definitely inconclusive.   Not trying to create rumors nor trying to
fan flames of old ones.   This is a sophisticated group and the comment could be
received without disparagement.
	Forgot you were assoc. with BSM, Fred  --  will try to find out some contacts
for you to query concerning the purported evidence!   I was told that old files
of BTC were found rather recently (last several years?) which might indicate
such.
	As far as assignments of 1600, when I saw the car in service on the 48-line, I
thought it possible that the car might have floated among divisions for a time
after delivery for maximum exposure on the system.   Forgot to include this with
the post of URLs on Bill's photos.   Even 1700-herself was shorn of external
interurban appearances and used on the 22-Crosstown for a time in late
1948--early--1949!   And transit agencies do the same today - we are doing that
with the new ETI-Skoda TCs - having the new coaches operate on a variety of
lines for exposure until enough are on hand to service one complete line.

	Thank You, John, for taking the time to scan and post Bill's photos!

>> From:  HRBran99 at aol.com

>> Quoting 
>> from "PCC, The Car That Fought Back," by Carlson/Schneider III, ".........St. 
>> Thus, the all-electric demonstrator was built as a one-of-a-kind and not 
>> taken from any other order.

	Yes  --  as you know, I have often quoted from these books as well!(:->)   
Maybe it is more correctly stated that 1600 substituted for one of the original
1600--1699 series cars that PRCo ordered on 1944.01.14 as a 100--car order.   On
the back of the pg.2 fold out in the above named book, "Note--6" 
states:::::::    "Ordered as body style 10  WITH--AIR--BRAKES  [emphasis added] 
and changed to body style 30 prior to construction."

	Alan R. Lind's book, "From Horsecars to Streamliners," on pg.367 states this
about SLC Job #1646:::::::     "The order was originally for 100--cars  [PRCo
1600-series]  until job 1646A was contracted."   After 1646A was contracted,
only 99--cars were built for Job-1646!

	Job #1646A is for The Queen Mary, 1600--herself, and she was shipped from SLC
on 1945.09.02 while 1601--1699 were shipped from 1945.07.24--1945.01.17.


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A   BLESSED  CHRISTMAS   AND

A   HAPPY   AND

	PROSPEROUS   NEW   YEAR!!!

> "Fred W. Schneider III" wrote:

> Certain people in Baltimore like to make up stories too.  I'm on the BSM
> library staff and I've never seen the "evidence."

> Keep the rumors flowing ... its fun putting out brush fires. Of course
> the fires will never be put out because everyone wants to be a believer.

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James B. Holland

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