1713

John F Bromley johnfbromley at home.com
Wed Jan 3 13:09:31 EST 2001


Ray Corley maintains a listing of all preserved PCC cars.  The latest copy I have from him, however, is dated September 1998, and he is sometimes dependent on the generosity of others for data, so here's a starting point and who can add to it or correct it:

1138  Duhhh!  Acq 3/61

1440  Seashore  Acq 6/68  (from here on I'll drop the "acq"

1467  PTM 6/68

1605  Ed Mitchell, Uniontown 9/72, scrapped 6/94

1626  Ed Mitchell 9/72

1632
1650

1661 all as 1626

1703  Viuntage Electric Streetcar, Windber, PA 1991 or 92

1705  Power Semiconductor. New Castle PA 11-95

1711  Duhhh again, 4/90

1713  Penn-Ohio Elec Rwy Assoc, Ashley PA 5/98

1716  Power Semiconductor, E Pittsburgh 8-91, scrapped after fire Mar 7-95

1718  as 1716

1721  PSM Technologies 6-90, scrapped 5-96

1723  as 1716

1724  Historical Soiciety of Western PA, Pittsburgh, 6-95

1726  as 1716

1728  Ed Miller for Penn-Ohio Electric, Ashley OH 6-95 (Corley has 10-95 bracketed, don't know why)

1730  PSM Technologies, E Pittsburgh 6-90, scrapped 5-96

1734  Cincinnati St Rwy Inc 10-91, sale later rescinded and sold to PSM Technologies 11-95, scrapped 5-96

1736  PSA, New Castle PA 11-95 (perhaps another aborted sale top CSR Inc)

1737  Ed Mitchell, Uniontown PA 11-95

1738  Vintage Elec, Windber PA 1991 or 1992

1741  as 1738

1745  Ed Mitchell, Uniontown PA 3-98

1748  as 1716

1750  as 1738

1754  as 1738 but one record shows sold to CSR Inc in 7-94 - confusion here.

1761  to CSR Inc, Cincinnati OH 7-94 for restoration as CSR 1175 (oh boy that's a good one) but scrapped after 3-97 flood.

1764  as 1734

1766  as 1734

1771  as 1738

1772  Ohio Railway Museum, Worthington OH 6-90 (there you go, Ken)

1773  PSA, NEw Castle PA 12-05

1788 II ex-1639 Ed Miller and Dave Buechler 3-95, acquired from Kenova RR Museum, WV who got it in 1991, originally sold to Pittsburgh History & Landm,arks Foundation 1987 and stored at Arden briefly, now to go to Penn-Ohio Electric Railway Assn for restoration as 1639 (whewww!! , that wore me out)

1794 II ex-1669  Ed Mitchell, Uniontown PA 6-91, body only, apparently car SFS 4-84, don't know interim history

1797 II ex-1644, Northern Ohio RR Museum, Medina OH 12-86, for restoration back to 1644

1799 II ex-1613 according to Corley but my list shows ex-1640 (OK guys, who's right?  Should be a no brainer for everyone but us frozen Canucks),  PTM 7-87

1976 ex-1784 II ex-1603, Ron Jedlicka, Harbor Hills OH 12-86

4002  PSA, new Castle PA 3-98

4003  Ed Mitchell, Uniontown PA 3-98

4006  Ron Jedlicka, Pataskala OH (on display at Columbus OH last we heard) 5-98

4010  as 4003

4011  Ron Jedlicka, Pataskala OH (to Buckeye Lake, Harbor Hills) 5-98

4012 ex-4000  as 1976.

So, let's have the corrections, all you fanatics!

John Bromley
  -----Original Message ----- 
  From: Kenneth Josephson 
  To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 12:10 PM
  Subject: Re: 1713


  I do know that Pittsburgh PCC 1644 is there. It is in a mod yellow/white/yellow scheme, but with its original painted on. 
  Charlie Brown has suggested that a definitive roster of preserved and privately owned Pittsburgh cars be put together as a reference for the rest of us. We all know some of these cars will change hands again or wind up scrapped, but if we can put together a list now, it would simply need an annual or bi-annual update to remain accurate. It could be included in the Trolley Fare once a year. 

  Comments?    Ken J. 

  Fredbruhn at aol.com wrote: 

    Who's on first? 
    Now I'm confused.  If 1713 was never at Worthington, is there a 1700 class 
    there now?  Or did Ed's car just stop by on its way to whereever it is stored 
    now.  And I agree with Mr. Lybarger, it must be the car at Ashley. 

    I seem to remember Worthington getting an ex Cincinnati/ex TTC car with hopes 
    of restoring it.  It was in bad shape, of course outside.  Then I heard they 
    cut it up and saved what they could - trucks, or whatever.  Can anyone verify 
    this story. 

    Fred

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