1713
John F Bromley
johnfbromley at home.com
Wed Jan 3 13:09:31 EST 2001
Ray Corley maintains a listing of all preserved PCC cars. The latest copy I have from him, however, is dated September 1998, and he is sometimes dependent on the generosity of others for data, so here's a starting point and who can add to it or correct it:
1138 Duhhh! Acq 3/61
1440 Seashore Acq 6/68 (from here on I'll drop the "acq"
1467 PTM 6/68
1605 Ed Mitchell, Uniontown 9/72, scrapped 6/94
1626 Ed Mitchell 9/72
1632
1650
1661 all as 1626
1703 Viuntage Electric Streetcar, Windber, PA 1991 or 92
1705 Power Semiconductor. New Castle PA 11-95
1711 Duhhh again, 4/90
1713 Penn-Ohio Elec Rwy Assoc, Ashley PA 5/98
1716 Power Semiconductor, E Pittsburgh 8-91, scrapped after fire Mar 7-95
1718 as 1716
1721 PSM Technologies 6-90, scrapped 5-96
1723 as 1716
1724 Historical Soiciety of Western PA, Pittsburgh, 6-95
1726 as 1716
1728 Ed Miller for Penn-Ohio Electric, Ashley OH 6-95 (Corley has 10-95 bracketed, don't know why)
1730 PSM Technologies, E Pittsburgh 6-90, scrapped 5-96
1734 Cincinnati St Rwy Inc 10-91, sale later rescinded and sold to PSM Technologies 11-95, scrapped 5-96
1736 PSA, New Castle PA 11-95 (perhaps another aborted sale top CSR Inc)
1737 Ed Mitchell, Uniontown PA 11-95
1738 Vintage Elec, Windber PA 1991 or 1992
1741 as 1738
1745 Ed Mitchell, Uniontown PA 3-98
1748 as 1716
1750 as 1738
1754 as 1738 but one record shows sold to CSR Inc in 7-94 - confusion here.
1761 to CSR Inc, Cincinnati OH 7-94 for restoration as CSR 1175 (oh boy that's a good one) but scrapped after 3-97 flood.
1764 as 1734
1766 as 1734
1771 as 1738
1772 Ohio Railway Museum, Worthington OH 6-90 (there you go, Ken)
1773 PSA, NEw Castle PA 12-05
1788 II ex-1639 Ed Miller and Dave Buechler 3-95, acquired from Kenova RR Museum, WV who got it in 1991, originally sold to Pittsburgh History & Landm,arks Foundation 1987 and stored at Arden briefly, now to go to Penn-Ohio Electric Railway Assn for restoration as 1639 (whewww!! , that wore me out)
1794 II ex-1669 Ed Mitchell, Uniontown PA 6-91, body only, apparently car SFS 4-84, don't know interim history
1797 II ex-1644, Northern Ohio RR Museum, Medina OH 12-86, for restoration back to 1644
1799 II ex-1613 according to Corley but my list shows ex-1640 (OK guys, who's right? Should be a no brainer for everyone but us frozen Canucks), PTM 7-87
1976 ex-1784 II ex-1603, Ron Jedlicka, Harbor Hills OH 12-86
4002 PSA, new Castle PA 3-98
4003 Ed Mitchell, Uniontown PA 3-98
4006 Ron Jedlicka, Pataskala OH (on display at Columbus OH last we heard) 5-98
4010 as 4003
4011 Ron Jedlicka, Pataskala OH (to Buckeye Lake, Harbor Hills) 5-98
4012 ex-4000 as 1976.
So, let's have the corrections, all you fanatics!
John Bromley
-----Original Message -----
From: Kenneth Josephson
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: 1713
I do know that Pittsburgh PCC 1644 is there. It is in a mod yellow/white/yellow scheme, but with its original painted on.
Charlie Brown has suggested that a definitive roster of preserved and privately owned Pittsburgh cars be put together as a reference for the rest of us. We all know some of these cars will change hands again or wind up scrapped, but if we can put together a list now, it would simply need an annual or bi-annual update to remain accurate. It could be included in the Trolley Fare once a year.
Comments? Ken J.
Fredbruhn at aol.com wrote:
Who's on first?
Now I'm confused. If 1713 was never at Worthington, is there a 1700 class
there now? Or did Ed's car just stop by on its way to whereever it is stored
now. And I agree with Mr. Lybarger, it must be the car at Ashley.
I seem to remember Worthington getting an ex Cincinnati/ex TTC car with hopes
of restoring it. It was in bad shape, of course outside. Then I heard they
cut it up and saved what they could - trucks, or whatever. Can anyone verify
this story.
Fred
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