[PRCo] Re: TC on Grant???????

[Jim Holland]

> Bob Rathke wrote:

> Richard DeArmond says that the trolley bus demonstration in Pittsburgh occurred
> from September 28 to October 11, 1936; Pittsburgh took another look at TCs in 1949,
> but there's no indication of a demonstration in that year. (Could the 1936
> demonstation have been an attempt to steal some business from PRC's planned
> purchase of PCCs?)

<http://www.sfu.ca/person/dearmond/morph/Pittsburgh.photo.htm>.

	Possibly!  These 3-pictures are the same ones I have - Richard either
got the scans from me or off ABPR where I posted them; one of the photos
also appears in my section on Pittsburgh on Dave's trolleycar pix.
	Photo #1 is a head on of the TC with a 48-line double ender inbound on
Grant.  Interesting, isn't it?  Route for 48-line must have been
different in those days!!  Think this one is on Daves site with a
warning beside it that a bus is next!!
	Photo #2 is the same one we have been discussing.
	Photo #3 is on Grant making the turn into 7th.

	There are at least 2-other  DEMON--strations  of TCs in Pittsburgh:

	1)--1946 with CTA--#292--TC on display at Westinghouse along with PRCo
PCC 1600 up high so the underbody gear and trucks would be readily
visible.  Have a photo which shows these two together.

	2)--1949--1950, again at the Westinghouse Facility.  San Francisco Muni
Marmon #796 is pictured on a wye built specifically for the TC demo at
the Westinghouse plant.  The Destination Sign reads:::  
"Family--Day--Special."    This appears to be in the flood control area
of the 55-line if I am not mistaken.   So this is an operating 
DEMON--stration of a TC!

>>> Edward H. Lybarger wrote:

>>> I believe that stack was part of the Pennsylvania Railroad's facilities.
>>> The view is not on Grant Street as has been postulated.  The view is clearly
>>> on Liberty Avenue looking east.  Note the presence of the White Tower and
>>> the absence of the Federal Reserve Bank branch and the Greyhound Terminal.

http://davesrailpix.railfan.net/pitts/htm/wvp53.htm

> Jim Holland wrote:

>>         Had to do a double-take and recheck the photo.  If we are looking east,
>> that means the TC is heading West - toward the Point - and it did not
>> run that way.  The TC would have to run east on Liberty.
>>         And the Parking Ramp for Greyhound would be high in the immediate
>> background, and it is absent.
>>         The White Tower would be in the corner of the intersection near where
>> the 44-line would turn from 11th to Liberty.
>>         AND.......  part of the Greyhound ramp might be visible just above the
>> heads of the people standing between the auto and the front of the TC.
>> Can you see the railing there?
>>         Still believe that this is on Grant just beyond Liberty.

-- 
James B. Holland