[PRCo] Re: And Speaking of Rejected Cars.....

[John Swindler]

>Jim Holland commented:
>
>
> > John Swindler wrote:
>
> > Maybe we can talk Harold into reminiscing a bit about how decisions 
>changed
> > over time as different personalities - and events - came and went.
>
> > We are condemned to mere speculation.
>
> > But Harold was involved with part of the decision making process.
>
> > And as Jim is hinting, the focus has been on streetcar body style, and 
>not
> > electrical repair parts.
>
>	Actually, Mr. G said it was body style, not electrical repair parts.
>


Yes (concerning body style), but from the customer's perspective, not the 
railfan's perspective.   We look at the 1700 GE cars and see a newer car 
body.  The customer's look at the 1700 GE cars and see a car with sealed 
windows.



>	The GE 17s were scrapped by 1969 which was Before any decision to
>upgrade the PCCs.  That decision came in late 1970 or early 1971, if I
>am not mistaken.  Thus the GE 17s were not around to be included in any
>overhaul.
>


What were the projected vehicle requirements in 1969??  1972??  1964??  Not 
as we look back with 20/20 hindsight, but as PAT Operations and or Planning 
Departments looked towards the future at different times and with different 
people in charge.

And it is admittedly a very difficult question for Harold to ponder.

Again, curious as to what was going on in the front office.

John



>	My point was that when PRCo started scrapping cars, they got rid of the
>GE cars first - ala the 1275--1299--series.  So there was a precedent
>for scrapping GE cars when it came to  ({[pat]})!
>
>	And I definitely see the different personalities involved.  That is why
>I stated that maybe the powers that were decided to scrap some of the
>newest cars to help thwart the Trolley Jollies!!  While we prefer not to
>see any cars scrapped, it worked in saving some of the Air-Cars which
>otherwise would have been doomed.
>
>	And  KEN  would not have 1614 as his favorite car today if that was the
>case  --  it would have to be one of those cars that can't be beat  --
>a 17!!
>
>====================
>Jim
>

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