[PRCo] Re: 1967 New York Times article

Jim Holland pghpcc at pacbell.net
Sat Jun 16 02:13:47 EDT 2001


Matt!
	In the  March--April--1992  *Trolley--Fare*  pg.7 is what you were
asking about, and is listed under the heading of  "25 Years Ago in
Trolley Fare," and I quote:

"March 1967, Vol. XIII, No.11:"
	"A New York Times article headed 'Pittsburgh Acts to Drop Trolleys'
describes PAT's abandonment of the East End routes and ends with a
derisive comment from PAT head John Dameron:::::::"
	"'Maybe they think that streetcars will stage a comeback.'"

	And I checked the March issue of TF, Matt, but could not find the
article.  But then, pg.2 of my copy is blank and I quote the following
from the April//May--1967 issue:

	"As you may have noticed we had more than our share of problems in
printing the March TF."

	Maybe part of the reason for combining Aprii//May!!

	Checked other issues of 1967--TF but did not find anything about the
NY--Times article.

	The January--1967  TF  states:::::::

	"The scrapping program grinds onward---sweepers  M-18, 27, 36, 52 and
54 have bit the dust.  In connection with the '90 Streetcars For Sale'
ad we ran the last time, the breakdown is as follows---20-1400s, 
33-1500s,  10-1600s,  and 27-1700s.   Yes gang, all the GE 1700s are
slated to get the axe.  If you'd like to bid on one, do so before
December 29 [1966].  Also on the way to the torch are sweepers  M-31, 
37,  38,  39,  40,  41 and 42.  Highfloors M-452 and 459 are also
included."

	This is from the front page, 5th paragraph.

	Thus, the decision to get rid of the GE--17s was made in 1966.  It was
stalled because of a possible sale to Boston, but that fell through. 
There seemed to be some interest from Chicago and a couple other places
in purchasing unwanted PCCs from Pgh.  Boston also looked at
ex-Birmingham cars in Toronto which were in much better shape, but we
now know nothing came of that, either!!

> mrb190 wrote:

> Hi Folks,

> I recall reading in an old Trolley Fare, in the "25 years ago" section, that the
> New York Times had an article in their paper in 1967 entitled something like:
> "Pittsburgh Gets Rid of Its Streetcars."

====================
Jim




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