[PRCo] Re: Fantrip with 1161, very early 1960s likely

[Jim Holland]

Good Morning!!

> John F Bromley wrote:

> OK, I sent the earlier before seeing this and I was obviously correct on the
> dating.  Obviously Swindler was wrong about Mesta, or is that styoip in the
> same place?

	John said it is the stop
		*just--south--of--Mesta*
			and that stop is
				*South--Park--Road*

	So the location is listed correctly.

>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jim Holland" <pghpcc at pacbell.net>

>> Good Morning!!

>> The stop is actually South Park Road.  I personally have a photo of a
>> PCC interurban outbound to Charleroi on the trestle.
>> I believe there is a photo of the trestle alone on Dave's site and it
>> has been discussed here before - don't have the time to look at Dave's
>> to identify the URL.
>> Well remember riding over the trestle and the shoo-fly to get around
>> the trestle removal as well as construction of the grade crossing.  A
>> simple right-turnout was cut into the outbound track (at a point where
>> the current Library line roadbed suddenly dips) and both inbound and
>> outbound cars used the same track.  Once the trestle was removed, the
>> outbound track was terminated directly beyond the turnout and the
>> drop-off was rather precipitous.  Felt extremely uneasy about the
>> maneuver but this was built by PRCo professionals  --  and it worked
>> well.
>> The trestle allowed for only one lane of traffic underneath it.  Rather
>> interesting that this trestle is to be rebuilt if the Library line is
>> upgraded by  ({[pat]})!!!!!!!

>> Here is the information from the PRMA fantrip:::::::

>> ""1960.04.24  --  1161  --  'Springtime Trolley Ramble'
>> Monongahela Incline, 85, 82, 96, 95, 94, 75, 64,
>> 49, 48, 40, 36, 38A, 38, 42.""

>> Please Note the Correct  SUNday  date and the fact that the Library
>> line is not listed  --  but doesn't mean it wasn't travelled on the
>> trip!!

>> Photos on pgs.94, 96, 108, & 113 of WDVs  *PA Trolleys in Color Vol-3*
>> show photos of this same fantrip with incorrect date.  One similar to
>> pg.113 appears on Dave's site under WDVs section.

> John F Bromley wrote:

> Maybe I can answer half of my own question - the date is given by WDV in the
> 3rd PA opus as April 25, 1960, however that's a Monday.  US holiday????

> Still no clue where.

>>> From: John Swindler <j_swindler at hotmail.com>

>>> Yes, removal of the bridge just south of Mesta Stop.  Without going digging
>>> for the family photo album, wasn't that the fantrip that included a last
>>> PERC trip on 94,95,96?  (where's Jim H. when you need him)  It predates my
>>> 35mm camera, so would probably be 1961.  (maybe I should 'digitize' prints
>>> from my negs of that trip, and start a monthly auction on eBay <g>.

> From: "John F Bromley" <johnfbromley at home.com>

> OK, guys, I need some help ID'ing a slide of 1161 on two counts.  First,
> the date.  Second, the slide shows the car on a fantrip on a temporary
> shoo-fly on the LIBRARY line (either that or the car is just signed LIBRARY
> for the fun of it and its somewhere in the north hills??), bypassing a short
> wooden trestle.  Any ides of where?  This must have been a significant event
> (the shoo-fly, not the fantrip).

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