[PRCo] Re: Fantrip with 1161, very early 1960s likely

[John F Bromley]

Apologies all round - that'll teach me to look at something within 3 minutes
of getting out of bed.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Holland" <pghpcc at pacbell.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 2:03 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Fantrip with 1161, very early 1960s likely


>
> Good Morning!!
>
> > John F Bromley wrote:
>
> > OK, I sent the earlier before seeing this and I was obviously correct on
the
> > dating.  Obviously Swindler was wrong about Mesta, or is that styoip in
the
> > same place?
>
> John said it is the stop
> *just--south--of--Mesta*
> and that stop is
> *South--Park--Road*
>
> So the location is listed correctly.
>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Jim Holland" <pghpcc at pacbell.net>
>
> >> Good Morning!!
>
> >> The stop is actually South Park Road.  I personally have a photo of a
> >> PCC interurban outbound to Charleroi on the trestle.
> >> I believe there is a photo of the trestle alone on Dave's site and it
> >> has been discussed here before - don't have the time to look at Dave's
> >> to identify the URL.
> >> Well remember riding over the trestle and the shoo-fly to get around
> >> the trestle removal as well as construction of the grade crossing.  A
> >> simple right-turnout was cut into the outbound track (at a point where
> >> the current Library line roadbed suddenly dips) and both inbound and
> >> outbound cars used the same track.  Once the trestle was removed, the
> >> outbound track was terminated directly beyond the turnout and the
> >> drop-off was rather precipitous.  Felt extremely uneasy about the
> >> maneuver but this was built by PRCo professionals  --  and it worked
> >> well.
> >> The trestle allowed for only one lane of traffic underneath it.  Rather
> >> interesting that this trestle is to be rebuilt if the Library line is
> >> upgraded by  ({[pat]})!!!!!!!
>
> >> Here is the information from the PRMA fantrip:::::::
>
> >> ""1960.04.24  --  1161  --  'Springtime Trolley Ramble'
> >> Monongahela Incline, 85, 82, 96, 95, 94, 75, 64,
> >> 49, 48, 40, 36, 38A, 38, 42.""
>
> >> Please Note the Correct  SUNday  date and the fact that the Library
> >> line is not listed  --  but doesn't mean it wasn't travelled on the
> >> trip!!
>
> >> Photos on pgs.94, 96, 108, & 113 of WDVs  *PA Trolleys in Color Vol-3*
> >> show photos of this same fantrip with incorrect date.  One similar to
> >> pg.113 appears on Dave's site under WDVs section.
>
> > John F Bromley wrote:
>
> > Maybe I can answer half of my own question - the date is given by WDV in
the
> > 3rd PA opus as April 25, 1960, however that's a Monday.  US holiday????
>
> > Still no clue where.
>
> >>> From: John Swindler <j_swindler at hotmail.com>
>
> >>> Yes, removal of the bridge just south of Mesta Stop.  Without going
digging
> >>> for the family photo album, wasn't that the fantrip that included a
last
> >>> PERC trip on 94,95,96?  (where's Jim H. when you need him)  It
predates my
> >>> 35mm camera, so would probably be 1961.  (maybe I should 'digitize'
prints
> >>> from my negs of that trip, and start a monthly auction on eBay <g>.
>
> > From: "John F Bromley" <johnfbromley at home.com>
>
> > OK, guys, I need some help ID'ing a slide of 1161 on two counts.  First,
> > the date.  Second, the slide shows the car on a fantrip on a temporary
> > shoo-fly on the LIBRARY line (either that or the car is just signed
LIBRARY
> > for the fun of it and its somewhere in the north hills??), bypassing a
short
> > wooden trestle.  Any ides of where?  This must have been a significant
event
> > (the shoo-fly, not the fantrip).
>
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> James B. Holland
>
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