[PRCo] Re: Route 9

Donald Galt galtfd at att.net
Sun May 20 19:28:29 EDT 2001


Trying to consolidate threads here.

On 19 May 01, at 20:41, Fred W. Schneider III wrote (thread 
http://davesrailpix.railfan.net/pitts/htm/kjpgh300.htm):

> 
> Probably because they felt there wasn't enough business to
> justify running through.  Perhaps running every second or
> third or fourth car through would have really screwed up
> crew scheduling. Route 9 Charles was really a shuttle that
> remained from the original Route 9 Perrysville / Charles. It
> once ran through from downtown via Perrysville Avenue and
> then down Charles Street.  

Would that have been long, long ago, Fred?

Your 1914 listing shows the following:

Route 106, destination 8: Perrysville Ave - Riverview Park
 Via Federal and Sandusky St., Ninth St. Bridge, Liberty Ave. and 
Seventh St. Bridge.

Route 106½, destination 8: Perrysville Ave.
 Via Ohio St., Union and Church Aves., Anderson St., Ninth St. 
Bridge, Liberty Ave. and Seventh St. Bridge.

Route 106, destination 9: Perrysville Ave to Charles St.
 Via Federal and Sandusky St., Ninth St. Bridge, Liberty Ave. and 
Seventh St. Bridge.

Nothing here about returning via Charles Street.

The same listing includes Route 109, destination 7 (Charles Street 
line as we know it, running to Penn Station) and Route 110, no 
destination number (Charles Street Transfer)

The Arnold Report (1910 - and pre-Keating, let us note) includes:

 106 - Perrysville Ave.
	Running round trip mileage 8.93, dead mileage 5.08

 106½ - Perrysville Ave. to Charles St. (note discrepancy here)
	No mileages shown

 109 - Charles St.
	Running round trip mileage 6.22, dead mileage 0.66

 110 - Charles St. Transfer
	Running round trip mileage 1.25, dead mileage 0.66

I've puzzled about some of these dead mileages before in this 
forum. the ones for the 109 and 110 are easy enough - this would 
be the distance from Taggart Street carhouse to Irwin Avenue. The 
5.08 miles for the 106, I suppose that must be the round-trip 
distance from Taggart Street to Perrysville and East Street.

When, by the way, did Charles Street carhouse exist at Irwin 
Avenue? And what was its function? It's on the PTM track map, but 
there is no trace of it on the 1937 topo.

Don




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