[PRCo] Re: PCC in Holland

John Swindler j_swindler at hotmail.com
Fri May 25 09:53:29 EDT 2001






>John F Bromley replied
>
>
>There are no Tatras in the Hague.  Their PCC articulated cars (they all 
>have standard PCC trucks and controls) were built by BN (Bombardier now), 
>as were the original PCCs.
>



Didn't the 3000 series in The Hague use parts salvaged from 1100, 1200 and 
1300 series cars, such as trucks and motors?  Sort of along the lines of 
what CTA did to create the 6000 series PCC rapid transit cars (but not 
6000-6199 which were all new material).  The controls on the 3000 may be new 
(solid-state?), but sure does look like old B-2 or B-3 trucks underneath.

Instead of Holland, those suffering from PCC withdrawal might consider 
Belgium.  Greatly enjoyed riding 4-axle PCC cars to get about Ghent and 
Antwerp last month. (and when was the last time anyone on this list rode a 
PCC streetcar to Hoboken?)  Not so impressed with  articulated PCC cars in 
Brussels.  By the way, air fare is about the same from northeast, but it was 
considerably cheaper for lodging and to travel about Belgium as compared 
with California.

John






>----- Original Message -----
>From: <AProchek at aol.com>
>To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 12:38 AM
>Subject: [PRCo] PCC in Holland
>
>
> >
> > I was in The Hauge this week (they still have an extensive streetcar
>system)
> > and a PCC went by.... it was called the "Party Trolley" or "Party Tram"
>and
> > done up in a triple treat/Mod desire kind of scheme.  This one must have
>been
> > a special charter streetcar as all the other streetcars I saw were three
>unit
> > Tatras.  It looked remarkably unmolested except for the pantograph - a
>stock
> > post war all-electric.
> >
> > Those of you missing Pittsburgh Railways system may find Holland's
>strangely
> > familiar, except for the Tatras.  Unlike the Light Rail system, they 
>seem
>to
> > feel that a little grass between the rails adds to the charm (in fact, 
>in
>the
> > private right of ways its nothing but grass and rails) and the line 
>poles
>are
> > relatively small, painted olive which blends into the surroundings.
>minimal
> > overhead clutter. nice.
> >
>
>

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