[PRCo] Re: PCC in Holland

Fred W. Schneider III fschnei at supernet.com
Fri May 25 10:53:22 EDT 2001


Lodging and meals in Tatra territory can be much cheaper than in western
Europe....

John Swindler wrote:
> 
> >John F Bromley replied
> >
> >
> >There are no Tatras in the Hague.  Their PCC articulated cars (they all
> >have standard PCC trucks and controls) were built by BN (Bombardier now),
> >as were the original PCCs.
> >
> 
> Didn't the 3000 series in The Hague use parts salvaged from 1100, 1200 and
> 1300 series cars, such as trucks and motors?  Sort of along the lines of
> what CTA did to create the 6000 series PCC rapid transit cars (but not
> 6000-6199 which were all new material).  The controls on the 3000 may be new
> (solid-state?), but sure does look like old B-2 or B-3 trucks underneath.
> 
> Instead of Holland, those suffering from PCC withdrawal might consider
> Belgium.  Greatly enjoyed riding 4-axle PCC cars to get about Ghent and
> Antwerp last month. (and when was the last time anyone on this list rode a
> PCC streetcar to Hoboken?)  Not so impressed with  articulated PCC cars in
> Brussels.  By the way, air fare is about the same from northeast, but it was
> considerably cheaper for lodging and to travel about Belgium as compared
> with California.
> 
> John
> 
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <AProchek at aol.com>
> >To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> >Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 12:38 AM
> >Subject: [PRCo] PCC in Holland
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I was in The Hauge this week (they still have an extensive streetcar
> >system)
> > > and a PCC went by.... it was called the "Party Trolley" or "Party Tram"
> >and
> > > done up in a triple treat/Mod desire kind of scheme.  This one must have
> >been
> > > a special charter streetcar as all the other streetcars I saw were three
> >unit
> > > Tatras.  It looked remarkably unmolested except for the pantograph - a
> >stock
> > > post war all-electric.
> > >
> > > Those of you missing Pittsburgh Railways system may find Holland's
> >strangely
> > > familiar, except for the Tatras.  Unlike the Light Rail system, they
> >seem
> >to
> > > feel that a little grass between the rails adds to the charm (in fact,
> >in
> >the
> > > private right of ways its nothing but grass and rails) and the line
> >poles
> >are
> > > relatively small, painted olive which blends into the surroundings.
> >minimal
> > > overhead clutter. nice.
> > >
> >
> >
> 
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