[PRCo] Re: Headways Route 12 versus Route 9

John Swindler j_swindler at hotmail.com
Fri May 25 15:20:39 EDT 2001



>
>
> > Fred W. Schneider III asked to
> >
> >Jim Holland wrote:
> > >
> > > > John Swindler wrote:
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> > > > Why 15 minutes service:  Because "custom to operate the service as 
>frequently as could be operated with one man".
> > >
> >So why did Pittsburgh Railways run route 12 every hour and let the
> >motorman sit at Evergreen Road for 20 minutes or so every trip?
> >Different schedule writer, different logic?
> >
>
>


Must be different route 12???

Route 12 Evergreen was not a shuttle route between East Street and Harpen 
St./Evergreen Rd.  It was a through route to Penn Ave. and Seventh Ave. 
using double end equipment.  At least according to the PUC abandonment 
docket. (help - anyone have access to public timetable??? information from 
earlier days???)


At application A-79997 filed by Pittsburgh Railways in 1953:

para. 4:  applicant desires... to abandon streetcar service over following 
route: Beginning on Evergreen Road at its intersection with East St., then 
northwardly along Evergreen Rd. to a point approx. 390 feet north of Harpen 
St., all in the City of Pittsburgh.

Reason:  discontinue operation of 12 Evergreen street railway service which 
operates from a point approximately 390 feet north of Harpen St. to Penn 
Ave. and Seventh.

In lieu of streetcar service, applicant proposes to substitute motor bus 
service along that portion of route 12 on Evergreen Rd. which cannot readily 
use number 10 cars.

Proposed abandonment required for modernization of services furnished by 
PRC.  Because of lack of street railway turning facilities, it is necessary 
to use old type double end equipment.

Signed, C. D. Palmer, notarized 20 April 1953


(note: testimony from public hearing not included on microfilm)


Order by the commission dated 9 Nov. 1953

1.  Currently the applicant (PRC) at A-76720, folder 46, seeks approval to 
amend common carrier certificate for Brighton Rd.-Perrysville Ave. feeder 
route so as to extend bus route and provide substitute service for 12 
Evergreen street railway service

2.  Applicant's Director of Traffic Promotion testified that there is a lack 
of turning facilities, requiring old type cars.

3.  Witness testified that proposed bus service will be more economical and 
acceptable to public.

4.  Witness further testified that little use made of existing street 
railway service, which averages 61 passengers per day.

5.  Applicant's Engineer of Way testified that street railway service will 
be abandoned on 1.14 miles of double track.

6.  Applicant's Superintendent of Ways and Structures testified that the 
applicant will burn off the rail heads and cover the existing paving of 
track area with 2.5 inches ID-2 type bituminous concrete.

7.  Engineer from Penna. Dept. of Highways testified that department is in 
accord with applicant's resurfacing plan

8.  Four users protested against applicant's proposed substitution due to 
need to transfer between bus and streetcar for trips to downtown Pittsburgh.

9.  Upon full consideration, request to abandon street railway service 
granted.

(end of file)
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