[PRCo] Re: Headways Route 12 versus Route 9

[mrb190]

I'll argue that you got the route number wrong for "E LIBERTY-62nd ST."  It's "96."



"Fred W. Schneider III" wrote:

> So what is a shuttle anyway?  Is it a line that doesn't go downtown?  If
> it loops on the northside, does that make it a non-shuttle?  How short
> does it have to be?  Was 62 Trafford a shuttle because it didn't go
> downtown Pittsburgh but only went to East Pittsburgh (or was East
> Pittsburgh a downtown)??  And what is the difference between SHUTTLE and
> TRANSFER?  Does a TRANSFER connect two other routes?  Like 32 P&LE
> TRANSFER connected the Smithfield Street and Point Bridge lines?  Then
> that must make 62 E LIBERTY-62nd ST also a TRANSFER because it connected
> the Highland and Butler Street lines?  And does anyone really want to
> argue?
>
> Jim Holland wrote:
> >
> > > John Swindler wrote:
> >
> > > Must be different route 12???
> >
> > > Route 12 Evergreen was not a shuttle route between East Street and Harpen
> > > St./Evergreen Rd.  It was a through route to Penn Ave. and Seventh Ave.
> > > using double end equipment.  At least according to the PUC abandonment
> > > docket. (help - anyone have access to public timetable??? information from
> > > earlier days???)
> >
> >         I was under the  *impression*  that, in the latter days, the 12-line
> > was extended downtown only in the rush hours and was a shuttle at other
> > times.
> >         One of the videos, possibly TGM, shows a 12 line car on the North Side
> > or downtown with a temporary destination sign - black letters on white!
> > And yes, double-ender!
> >
> > --
> > James B. Holland
> >
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