[PRCo] Re: Johnstown also

[Fred W. Schneider III]

Gregg:

Look at CERA Bulletin No. 89 in the old Trolley Sparks series ...
published March 1950 ... page 15.  There is a rather simplified side
elevation and floor plan of a two-man 286-297 series car.  
No dimensions on the drawing ... they would have to be scales from known
data.  Length over all was 43' - 1 1/2".   Length over dash appears to
be 42'-2 3/45".  Length over body corner posts was 30'-0 and some
illegible fraction of an inch.  Height over trolley boards appears to be
11 feet 5-1/2 i nches but the number of inches is almost illegible. 
Extreme width was something between 97 and 98 inches.  Truck centers
18;-10".   The date is not apparent; the wheel diameters are not
legible.  Therefore it is not possible to determine if the height
dimensions involve the original arch bar trucks or the replacement 27E
trucks off the 200-224 series.  

I can make and mail a xerox.  Need address. 

fws

"Edward H. Lybarger" wrote:
> 
> We have a lot of West Penn drawings in the PTM library, but many have not
> yet been unrolled.  I can't say whether or not we have this one or not.  But
> I can tell you all about the spittoons for the 700s!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of Greg
> King
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 11:40 PM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Johnstown also
> 
> Hi Derrick,
> 
> Thanks for that, you are quite right, I was mistaken regarding the side of
> the bridge the RR tracks were on. Having never been there, I only know what
> I've read or seen in video's.
> 
> One last request to anybody out there, does anybody have any plans of the
> 200 series West Penn local cars please (like 294) as i would like to build a
> model of one, I would be happy to trade or pay for copying.
> 
> Thanks again Derrick, you've answered all my questions.
> 
> Cheers
> Greg
> 
> > Last time I looked half of it was still standing, the other half having
> > been removed sometime before 1990 (Harold C Jenkins was the General
> > Manager of CCTA and when I talked to him in 1990 he recounted it being
> > removed for liability reasons)
> >
> > > Likewise, the nice seperated road
> > > with the brick wall devider where the cars came up from the RR crossing.
> No
> > > particular reason for this, just spots that peaked my interest when
> watching
> > > a video of them.
> >
> > This location isn't clicking. The Moxham end of the Ferndale bridge had a
> > "high" and "low" side of the road and is still like that, but the railroad
> > crossing was on the far side of the bridge. There was also a crossing at
> > the other end of Moxham but no separated road.
> >
> >