[PRCo] Re: Johnstown also

Greg King tramway at alphalink.com.au
Wed Nov 7 01:55:45 EST 2001


Hi Fred,

You life saver you, I have not seen nor have access to that publication so
would really appreciate a copy, if the drawing is accurate, I'll scale it up
with those dimensions and bingo. Do you think a production model kit would
sell of that in "O" scale?

My snail mail address is:
Greg King
11 Meldrum Crt
Sunbury
Vic. 3429
Australia

If there is anyway i can repay you, just ask. Thank you so much again.

Best wishes
Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred W. Schneider III" <fschnei at supernet.com>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 10:14 AM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Johnstown also


>
> Gregg:
>
> Look at CERA Bulletin No. 89 in the old Trolley Sparks series ...
> published March 1950 ... page 15.  There is a rather simplified side
> elevation and floor plan of a two-man 286-297 series car.
> No dimensions on the drawing ... they would have to be scales from known
> data.  Length over all was 43' - 1 1/2".   Length over dash appears to
> be 42'-2 3/45".  Length over body corner posts was 30'-0 and some
> illegible fraction of an inch.  Height over trolley boards appears to be
> 11 feet 5-1/2 i nches but the number of inches is almost illegible.
> Extreme width was something between 97 and 98 inches.  Truck centers
> 18;-10".   The date is not apparent; the wheel diameters are not
> legible.  Therefore it is not possible to determine if the height
> dimensions involve the original arch bar trucks or the replacement 27E
> trucks off the 200-224 series.
>
> I can make and mail a xerox.  Need address.
>
> fws
>
> "Edward H. Lybarger" wrote:
> >
> > We have a lot of West Penn drawings in the PTM library, but many have
not
> > yet been unrolled.  I can't say whether or not we have this one or not.
But
> > I can tell you all about the spittoons for the 700s!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> > [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of Greg
> > King
> > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 11:40 PM
> > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: Johnstown also
> >
> > Hi Derrick,
> >
> > Thanks for that, you are quite right, I was mistaken regarding the side
of
> > the bridge the RR tracks were on. Having never been there, I only know
what
> > I've read or seen in video's.
> >
> > One last request to anybody out there, does anybody have any plans of
the
> > 200 series West Penn local cars please (like 294) as i would like to
build a
> > model of one, I would be happy to trade or pay for copying.
> >
> > Thanks again Derrick, you've answered all my questions.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Greg
> >
> > > Last time I looked half of it was still standing, the other half
having
> > > been removed sometime before 1990 (Harold C Jenkins was the General
> > > Manager of CCTA and when I talked to him in 1990 he recounted it being
> > > removed for liability reasons)
> > >
> > > > Likewise, the nice seperated road
> > > > with the brick wall devider where the cars came up from the RR
crossing.
> > No
> > > > particular reason for this, just spots that peaked my interest when
> > watching
> > > > a video of them.
> > >
> > > This location isn't clicking. The Moxham end of the Ferndale bridge
had a
> > > "high" and "low" side of the road and is still like that, but the
railroad
> > > crossing was on the far side of the bridge. There was also a crossing
at
> > > the other end of Moxham but no separated road.
> > >
> > >
>





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