[PRCo] Re: Fantasy___Justifications

[John Swindler]

However, PRC did inherit power rate "J" from Duquesne Light.

Haven't seen any reference to proposed 10-car order in any rate case or 
reorganization decision.  But haven't looked at testimony yet.

John



>From: "Edward H. Lybarger" <twg at pulsenet.com>
>Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Fantasy___Justifications
>Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 08:52:40 -0500
>
>
>I don't read this as PRCo considering the purchase of 10 cars.  Rather, 
>they
>were talking equivalents.  I believe that the company knew in 1949 that its
>streetcar-buying days were over.  If they didn't know that, they wasted a
>lot of money recording the passenger counts that are in a book that now
>resides at the PTM Library.
>
>Like West Penn, Pittsburgh Railways was managed by very competent people.
>Unlike West Penn, they inherited perhaps the worst of all political and
>financial structures from their predecessors.  And they understood what the
>automobile was doing to their business.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of Jim
>Holland
>Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 3:36 AM
>To: -->-- PRCo___WP___JTC --<--
>Subject: [PRCo] Fantasy___Justifications
>
>
>
>Good Morning!!
>
>	Received the following information from Dennis Linsky, known by many
>here.   Interesting to note that PRCo considered the purchase of
>10-new PCC cars about 1950.   Wonder what they could have been and for
>what purpose.   Even then it was probably assumed that some streetcar
>abandonments were inevitable coming out of bankruptcy, even the
>cut-back of the interurbans to within Allegheny County.
>
>	So my personal fantasies of PRCo purchasing new PCCs (assuming good
>and modestly increasing patronage) have at least a little basis in
>history, even if not consumated!(:->)
>
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>
>PITTSBURGH'S LATE 1949 TRACK PROGRAM; OTHER NEWS
>
>    From:  Dennismk1 at aol.com
>      To:  pghpcc at pacbell.net
>
>     Good Morning, Jim:
>
>	It was 52 years ago when Pittsburgh Railways has rebuilt the
>following trackage:
>
>	Forbes Street from Homewood Cemetery to
>		Craft Avenue--a very long stretch.
>	Penn Avenue from Whitfield to Winebiddle
>		(route 88)--1 mile.
>	Brighton Road from Marshall to Davis
>		(most of route 6).
>	9th Street from Penn to Duquesne Way
>		(about 2 blocks)
>	West Ohio Street from Federal to Brighton
>		(about 1 1/2 miles).
>
>	Being in bankruptcy, PRWYS was allowed to lay only 22,000 feet of
>track a year and Steel City had to tie in its paving plans with those
>of the company.
>
>	For 1950, they were talking about rebuilding North Avenue from
>Federal to Arch (routes 6, 7, 9, 13, 14, and 15)--about 2 blocks.
>
>	Woods Run Road (tip end of route 18).
>	Penn Avenue from Winebiddle to Main
>		(route 88)--about 1 1/2 miles.
>
>	The company used 1000 streetcars in rush hours--about 300 being
>non-PCC's.  It claimed a loss of about 2 cars a month through
>retirement, disrepair, or accident.  It also said that the $3,000,000
>it might have collected  in 1949-50 would have bought 10 new PCC cars
>had the new fare increase been in effect sooner.
>
>     Very Sincerely,
>
>     Dennis M. Linsky
>     1350 East 5th Street, Apt. 3P
>     Brooklyn, NY   11230-4686
>     email:  Dennismk1 at aol.com
>     11/4/01
>
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>James B. Holland
>
>Holland  Electric  Railway  Operation
>     "O"--Scale  St.-Petersburg Trams Company Trolleycars  &
>         "O"--Scale  Parts  mailto:pghpcc at pacbell.net
>         Pennsylvania Trolley Museum (PTM) http://www.pa-trolley.org/
>     Pittsburgh  Railways  Company  (PRCo),   1930  --  1950
>N.M.R.A.  Life member #2190; http://www.nmra.org
>
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