[PRCo] Re: Johnstown also

[Dietrich, Robert J.]

>From my view down here in HO Trolleytown, it appears as though the only O
scale game in town these days are the St. Pete cars.  Everyone goes gaga
over them because they are really nice models at a price that is almost
impossible to compete with.  I think it is a far cry from the enjoyment of
scratch building a favorite car to the pain of engineering, producing,
marketing, and taking a big hit on a production model.  But then, I'm only
here for the fun of it.

By the way if you are interested in the kind of quality that I intend on
reaching with the Junction module look at the spread on my old module in the
East Penn web site -- http://www.eastpenn.org/pixlist.html -- South Hills
Junction will be at least this good.

Bob

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Fred W. Schneider III [mailto:fschnei at supernet.com] 
Sent:	Wednesday, November 07, 2001 4:09 PM
To:	pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
Subject:	[PRCo] Re: Johnstown also


Would a production kit sell?  Sure.  Would it sell enough to break
even?  That is problematic, particularly in 0 gauge.  There isn't a
whole lot of demand for HO brass anymore.  One importer I know has now
decided no longer to import any HO trolley brass until 70 or 75 percent
of the lot is advance sold.  He has found he can go broke while waiting
to sell his inventory.  And I believe HO far outsells O in the US
market.  
You asked, I answered.  


Greg King wrote:
> 
> Hi Fred,
> 
> You life saver you, I have not seen nor have access to that publication so
> would really appreciate a copy, if the drawing is accurate, I'll scale it
up
> with those dimensions and bingo. Do you think a production model kit would
> sell of that in "O" scale?
> 
> My snail mail address is:
> Greg King
> 11 Meldrum Crt
> Sunbury
> Vic. 3429
> Australia
> 
> If there is anyway i can repay you, just ask. Thank you so much again.
> 
> Best wishes
> Greg
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fred W. Schneider III" <fschnei at supernet.com>
> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 10:14 AM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Johnstown also
> 
> >
> > Gregg:
> >
> > Look at CERA Bulletin No. 89 in the old Trolley Sparks series ...
> > published March 1950 ... page 15.  There is a rather simplified side
> > elevation and floor plan of a two-man 286-297 series car.
> > No dimensions on the drawing ... they would have to be scales from known
> > data.  Length over all was 43' - 1 1/2".   Length over dash appears to
> > be 42'-2 3/45".  Length over body corner posts was 30'-0 and some
> > illegible fraction of an inch.  Height over trolley boards appears to be
> > 11 feet 5-1/2 i nches but the number of inches is almost illegible.
> > Extreme width was something between 97 and 98 inches.  Truck centers
> > 18;-10".   The date is not apparent; the wheel diameters are not
> > legible.  Therefore it is not possible to determine if the height
> > dimensions involve the original arch bar trucks or the replacement 27E
> > trucks off the 200-224 series.
> >
> > I can make and mail a xerox.  Need address.
> >
> > fws
> >
> > "Edward H. Lybarger" wrote:
> > >
> > > We have a lot of West Penn drawings in the PTM library, but many have
> not
> > > yet been unrolled.  I can't say whether or not we have this one or
not.
> But
> > > I can tell you all about the spittoons for the 700s!
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> > > [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of
Greg
> > > King
> > > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 11:40 PM
> > > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > > Subject: [PRCo] Re: Johnstown also
> > >
> > > Hi Derrick,
> > >
> > > Thanks for that, you are quite right, I was mistaken regarding the
side
> of
> > > the bridge the RR tracks were on. Having never been there, I only know
> what
> > > I've read or seen in video's.
> > >
> > > One last request to anybody out there, does anybody have any plans of
> the
> > > 200 series West Penn local cars please (like 294) as i would like to
> build a
> > > model of one, I would be happy to trade or pay for copying.
> > >
> > > Thanks again Derrick, you've answered all my questions.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Greg
> > >
> > > > Last time I looked half of it was still standing, the other half
> having
> > > > been removed sometime before 1990 (Harold C Jenkins was the General
> > > > Manager of CCTA and when I talked to him in 1990 he recounted it
being
> > > > removed for liability reasons)
> > > >
> > > > > Likewise, the nice seperated road
> > > > > with the brick wall devider where the cars came up from the RR
> crossing.
> > > No
> > > > > particular reason for this, just spots that peaked my interest
when
> > > watching
> > > > > a video of them.
> > > >
> > > > This location isn't clicking. The Moxham end of the Ferndale bridge
> had a
> > > > "high" and "low" side of the road and is still like that, but the
> railroad
> > > > crossing was on the far side of the bridge. There was also a
crossing
> at
> > > > the other end of Moxham but no separated road.
> > > >
> > > >
> >