[PRCo] Re: Auctioned PCCs

[Harold Geissenheimer]

Greetings to all

I have enjoyed reading your various comments about what to
paint the Muni ex-Pgh PCC cars.

Having been there, let me give my preferences (Not in order of preference)

-  A PRC Red & White front car.  Kenosha has one and it
    has been well received.
-  The Red, White and Blue 1776.
-  Any of the three "Bread loaf" paint jobs (Orange, red or yellow with white).
    This paint job really returned the PCC to the limelight.
-   The multi-color Mod Trolley.  Always well received.
-   The original red applied to the 4000's.
-   The Jolly Trolley:  A put down to John Dameron's Trolley Jolly.

I would not prefer the final 4000 colors copied from the LRT
or the PAT Grey.  This was merely an adaption of the bus paint
implemented by PAT.  Looked OK on New Look buses, was
poor on Old Look buses or the PCC's.

Colors are all in the mind of the viewer.  The last two mentioned
above do not represent Pittsburgh well in my opinion.

Best wishes to all.

Harold Geissenheimer



John Swindler wrote:

> PAT 1776 was originally PRC 1616.  It was my favorite car (Hey, Jim, when
> will this series be available from St. P.???) Why?  First time let loose on
> a PERC fantrip was June 1957 using 1616, which supposedly had  recently been
> released by Homewood with a white front.   We actually ran ahead of time,
> (charter schedule was based on low floor experience) and made detour to
> Kennywood Park.
>
> PAT 1776 was the only car to receive the red-white-blue "Spirit of 76' paint
> scheme.  As originally released by Tunnel Carhouse, did not have stars above
> window, but heard HHG make comment that rear of car was too dark. The large
> white stars could be considered a safety improvement.  (there are lots of
> idiots in the world with poor eyesight and a drivers license.)
>
> John
>
> >From: "John F Bromley" <johnfbromley at home.com>
> >Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> >Subject: [PRCo] Re: Auctioned PCCs
> >Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 20:20:01 -0400
> >
> >
> >1788 II  and 1791 II were patriotics, although neither was identical to
> >1776
> >II.  1753 was never in a similar scheme.  I have pix of all.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <Macmarka at cs.com>
> >To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> >Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 8:10 PM
> >Subject: [PRCo] Re: Auctioned PCCs
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Wasn't 1776 actually 1776II, a refurbished 1600 series car?  Correct me
> >if
> > > I'm wrong. I believe PAT had  another(1753?) that was done just like
> >1776II.
> > > Anyway, Muni was very receptive on my suggestion of Mod Desire. I just
> >didn't
> > > have a picture to send them. I gave them a couple websites to look at so
> >who
> > > knows?  I like the red, white and blue idea better. PAT supposedly had
> >three
> > > cars painted this way. Can anyone remember which cars were painted this
> >way.
> > > 1776II was one. Was 1753 another?
> > >
> >Mark
> > > A. McGuire
> > >
> >
> >
>
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