[PRCo] Re: Routes 6,13,15

[John Swindler]

>John F Bromley mentioned:
>
>Thanks Jim, very interesting.  I expect 6/15 and 8 ran separately to 
>Keating and looped there.
>
>Two of Volkmer's views show a 27/30 CARNEGIE-CRAFTON sign, one on a 
>fantrip, the other a yard scene.  Probably used by 27 pull-ins.  I also 
>have the 19 WESTERN-BRIGHTON sign (not, you'll note, Brighton ROAD).
>


19 Western-Brighton was a night car.  I first saw this mentioned in the 
public timetable, circa 1959/60.  (wasn't it 6/19???? I don't recall 
off-hand)

Would suspect that 27/30 MIGHT also fit into the night car category.  But 
west end went just prior to my being let loose to roam about Pittsburgh with 
Sunday-Holiday pass, so never collected any west end schedules.


>I've seen 88 FRANKSTOWN SHORT, very common and used in peaks if not at 
>other times.   I've also seen 58 GREENFIELD (SHORT) WITH the brackets, 
>unlike the 88 sign, but only on a Jones car - 5432 had this sign up in a 
>view from the big fan trip on September 9, 1956.
>


Yes, Frankstown Short was Homewood Shops, for all practical purposes.

Another one was 76-HAMILTON which terminated in Wilkinsburg, while 
76-HAMILTON JANE ST. was extended to Jane St. loop (which sort of wasn't) 
near Edgewood.

As for the 58 GREENFIELD SHORT, could have been a railfan production, or 
could have been a route used by double-end cars in years gone by.  There was 
a crossover at one time on Greenfield Ave.  (just can't recall where I saw 
this short-turn previously mentioned)

Also, I have some slides of PCC cars with 86 WILKINSBURG via SUBWAY EXPRESS. 
  But these were railfan productions, as was 2 GRANDMA'S HOUSE via THE 
WOODS. (which I heard about, but never saw)


>There must be others beyond the common stuff like 42/38, 77/54, 34/31, 
>6/13, 6/14.  Who's got some?
>
>.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jim Holland" <pghpcc at pacbell.net>
>To: "-->- PRCo -- WP -- JTC -<--" <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 1:29 AM
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Routes 6,13,15
>
>
> >
> > Hi John!
> >
> > Here is the information which shows that 6/15 did work as an owl at one 
>time  --  last March onlist.    The part about the 6/15 is the last
> > several paragraphs.
> >
> > But the discussions concerning this schedule show a tremendous variety
>-- Trailing quotes stripped by Listar --


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