[PRCo] Re: Routes 6,13,15

John F Bromley johnfbromley at rogers.com
Fri Dec 27 11:37:39 EST 2002


The photo of the 19 WESTERN-BRIGHTON says exactly that, altho' officially it
was probably 19/6.    The 5432 sign with 58 GREENFIELD (SHORT) was a
legitimate Jones car sign, not fluffed for the fantrip.

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Swindler" <j_swindler at hotmail.com>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 9:26 AM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Routes 6,13,15


>
>
> >John F Bromley mentioned:
> >
> >Thanks Jim, very interesting.  I expect 6/15 and 8 ran separately to
> >Keating and looped there.
> >
> >Two of Volkmer's views show a 27/30 CARNEGIE-CRAFTON sign, one on a
> >fantrip, the other a yard scene.  Probably used by 27 pull-ins.  I also
> >have the 19 WESTERN-BRIGHTON sign (not, you'll note, Brighton ROAD).
> >
>
>
> 19 Western-Brighton was a night car.  I first saw this mentioned in the
> public timetable, circa 1959/60.  (wasn't it 6/19???? I don't recall
> off-hand)
>
> Would suspect that 27/30 MIGHT also fit into the night car category.  But
> west end went just prior to my being let loose to roam about Pittsburgh
with
> Sunday-Holiday pass, so never collected any west end schedules.
>
>
> >I've seen 88 FRANKSTOWN SHORT, very common and used in peaks if not at
> >other times.   I've also seen 58 GREENFIELD (SHORT) WITH the brackets,
> >unlike the 88 sign, but only on a Jones car - 5432 had this sign up in a
> >view from the big fan trip on September 9, 1956.
> >
>
>
> Yes, Frankstown Short was Homewood Shops, for all practical purposes.
>
> Another one was 76-HAMILTON which terminated in Wilkinsburg, while
> 76-HAMILTON JANE ST. was extended to Jane St. loop (which sort of wasn't)
> near Edgewood.
>
> As for the 58 GREENFIELD SHORT, could have been a railfan production, or
> could have been a route used by double-end cars in years gone by.  There
was
> a crossover at one time on Greenfield Ave.  (just can't recall where I saw
> this short-turn previously mentioned)
>
> Also, I have some slides of PCC cars with 86 WILKINSBURG via SUBWAY
EXPRESS.
>   But these were railfan productions, as was 2 GRANDMA'S HOUSE via THE
> WOODS. (which I heard about, but never saw)
>
>
> >There must be others beyond the common stuff like 42/38, 77/54, 34/31,
> >6/13, 6/14.  Who's got some?
> >
> >.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Jim Holland" <pghpcc at pacbell.net>
> >To: "-->- PRCo -- WP -- JTC -<--" <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> >Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 1:29 AM
> >Subject: [PRCo] Re: Routes 6,13,15
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Hi John!
> > >
> > > Here is the information which shows that 6/15 did work as an owl at
one
> >time  --  last March onlist.    The part about the 6/15 is the last
> > > several paragraphs.
> > >
> > > But the discussions concerning this schedule show a tremendous variety
> >-- Trailing quotes stripped by Listar --
>
>
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