[PRCo] Re: State Elec/Horse/Cable history
John Swindler
j_swindler at hotmail.com
Fri Dec 27 10:18:46 EST 2002
The account for the first day trip of the Citizen's Passenger Railway
(Pittsburgh) is on-line under Historic Pittsburgh. Just use "horsecar" in
the simple search option.
Dates of Incorporation of these early horsecar lines in Pittsburgh is listed
in 'Pittsburgh of Today', which is also available on-line at same Historic
Pittsburgh web-site.
John
>From: "Edward H. Lybarger" <twg at pulsenet.com>
>Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: State Elec/Horse/Cable history
>Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 17:48:02 -0500
>
>
>Before 1872 (or was it 1874?...whenever the new state constituion too
>effect), all the street railway charters required an act of the
>legislature,
>and they will be found in the law library in the appropriate books. This
>is
>where I went to determine that there was no "official" Pennsylvania track
>gauge...that it was specified (if at all) in the charter for each company.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of Fred
>Schneider
>Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 7:00 PM
>To: twg at pulsenet.com; j_swindler at hotmail.com;
>pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>Subject: [PRCo] State Elec/Horse/Cable history
>
>
>
>I have entered all of the DIA property data back to 1871 into a matrix
>to make a bar graph showing what cities had service in what year.
>
>There were 26 transit companies in Pennsylvania in 1871, and I have no
>absolutely confirmed opening dates for any of them. They are listed
>below together with their suggested opening dates and source of those
>dates. (although those dates may be charter dates). Would each of you
>go over the list and let me know what you can add ... I'm out of state
>library sources and I don't care to read 10 newspapers from 1859 to
>1871. If any of you on Derrrick's list have any non-railfan literature
>that might fill in gaps, tell me. Thanks.
>
>Erie City Passenger Railway (1868 - Benson Rohrbeck)
>Harrisburg City Passenger Railway (Richard Steinmetz book claims it
>opened in 1873 but DIA has income and passenger reports back to 1871.)
>Allentown Passenger Railway (1868 - R. L. Kulp)
>Easton and South Easton Passenger Railway (1867 - R. L. Kulp)
>Philadelphia:
> Frankford and Southwark Passenger Railway Co.
> Citizens Passenger Railway (1859)
> Lombard and South Sts. Pass. Ry. Co.
> Second and Third Sts. Pass. Ry. Co.
> Hestonville, Mantua & Fairmount Pass. Ry. Co.
> Germantown Pass. Ry. Co.
> Seventeenth & Nineteenth Sts. Pass. Ry. Co.
> Union Pass. Ry. Co.
> West Philadelphia Pass. Ry. Co.
> Philadelphia City Pass. Ry. Co. (1859)
> Philadelphia and Darby (1857 - may have been a railroad in some
>years/
>Pittsburgh:
> Pittsburg, Oakland and East Liberty (1859)
> Citizens Pass. Ry. (1859)
> Pittsburg, Allegheny & Manchester (1859)
> Pittsburg & Birmingham (1859)
> Federal Street and Pleasant Valley Pass. Ry. (1872 charter
>(Rohrbeck) but operating in 1871
>Peoples Street Railway Co. of Luzerne Co., Scranton (1867 - Tom
>Flanagan)
>Coalville Passenger Railway (1869) - Became the Ashley-Sugar Notch line
>of Wilkes-Barre Railways
>Wilkes-Barre and Kingston Pass. Ry. Co. (1866 - Harold Cox)
>Williamsport Passenger Railway (1863 - H arold Cox)
>
>Also: Pittsburgh, Knoxville and St. Clair doesn't show up in DIA
>reports.
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