Good Morning!
>> Mark wrote:
>> Sorry Fred. I sent the question to the list a second time stating "before the
>> cutback". But you answered my question. Thanks! :>)
>> Mark McGuire
> "Fred wrote:
> As a purist, I think of the interurbans as two routes to Canonsburg /
> Washington and Monongahela / Charleroi / Roscoe that were abandoned in
> 1953. To the best of my knowledge, the only paint change from 1948-1949
> factory paint was the replacement of the centered gold front number with
> a black number in the cream field on the door side.
Fred definitely gets the details correct! And 1700-herself may have been
the first interurban to have the Golden Glow replaced with a sealed beam
headlight. Have a photo of her in downtown Wash. with shiny new dash
paint and the sealed beam.
Maybe to expand this a little bit -- M11, ex-PCC-100 -- *might* be
the first to get the hourglass front on a standard air-car. She was
repainted when converted to Instruction Car in June--1950. *Possibly*
First-Air-Car and First-Air-Car-Hourglass!!!(:->)
> Seventeen hundreds with red fronts, V fronts, etc. came in the early
> 1960s, long after the interurbans were shortened to Drake and Library.
> I believe, however, that Pittsburgh Railways always segregated the cars
> and that 1700-1724 were used only on Drake, Library, and Shannon as long
> as PRC was the owner and operator.
The "V" front was the first modification to hit repaints, or partial
repaints for which PRCo was quite famous. (Sometimes there was a patch
about 1-foot square or a little larger around the headlight when the sealed
beam replaced the Golden Glow! Have such a photo of 1630!) The "V" was
easier to apply than the Hourglass. The "V" debuted very late 1950s or
early 1960s!
The "V" was followed by a simple solid red dash ala delivery of all
air-cars - simpler yet than the "V".
And this was followed by the Half-n-Half - Cream Upper and Red Lower which
was the simplest when the whole car was painted.
There are several variations of the above as well.
PCC Interurban 1713 also sported the "V" front. PTM wanted this car
because it was at Charleroi when WP-832 was there (but so was 1711!) But
for some reason, ({[pat]}) held the car, repainted it to similar PRCo
colors ostensibly to keep the car, but where is it now?!?!
>> Mark wrote:
>> Can someone tell me if cars 1700-1724 ever had a different paint scheme other
>> than the hourglass fronts during the final years of the interurbans? Any
>> V-fronts?
>> Mark McGuire
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