[PRCo] Route//Destination__Signs

Jim Holland pghpcc at pacbell.net
Mon Mar 18 23:00:02 EST 2002


Good Morning!

	It can be generally (although not exclusively) stated that city cars
sported Route signs while Interurbans sported Destination signs.

	And there were multiples of variations on the above as well.   Would like
to compare Pittsburgh and San Francisco as examples  --  please share
others you know of!

	1--Spring--Garden  in Pittsburgh was just that both Inbound and Outbound  
---   solid piece route sign.

	1--California in San Francisco is only a partial display of the route.  
SF has split destination signs showing the route and terminal.

	Thus the correct signs would be:::

	1)--1--California to Drumm Inbound  OR.......
	2)--1--California to Howard Inbound.

	Outbound could be any of the following with the full length of the route
listed first:::::::

	1)--1--California to 33rd.
	2)--1--California to 6th.
	3)--1--California Presidio.
	4)--1--California Steiner.

	However, if coaches are running late in SF, then short turns are also made
inbound and  *to Van Ness*  or  *to Fillmore*  being the most common.

	The short turns in SF are used for rush hour trippers and also to get late
buses back on schedule.   Pittsburgh had short turn loops on some lines,
but they were separate route numbers.
	As an example, the 42-Dormont was the regular line;  during rush hours,
43-Neeld cars turned in Beechview and the Owl was combined with the
38-Mt.Lebanon to make the 42/38.   This became the permanent route  when
the 38-line was abandoned inbound of Dormont Jct.
	The 11-East Street was a short turn of the 10-West View and 14-Avalon was
a short turn of the 13-Emsworth.  Neville Island, or 23-Neville Island, was
a short turn of the 23-Sewickley.   And the 25-Island Avenue became an even
shorter route and the permanent route when all the 23-line outbound of here
was abandoned.
	Castle Shannon, or 37-Shannon, was a rush hour short trip of the
interurbans.   However, in earlier days when the lines operated to
Washington and Charleroi, Castle Shannon cars ran a regular schedule as
interurbans ran limited thru Overbrook.
	One exception to the above was the 88-Frankstown; its short turn car was
88-Frankstown-Short!   Other exceptions and variations exist as well.

	Interurbans were  *generally*  devoid of numbers of letter designations
for Destinations.   Washington, Charleroi, Library, Riverview and
Canonsburg were common in Pittsburgh and even in latter days,
Shannon-Library was used into the 1970s.

	Like that Boston seemed to used Destination configurations on all its
lines until latter days as well.   Makes for a very neat appearing sign.

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