[PRCo] Re: Santa Barbara Siding

[Jim Holland]

Good Morning!

> John Swindler wrote:

> Try the following for the 1934 plat map south of Pittsburgh:

> http://digital.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/maps/showmap.pl

http://digital.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/maps/showmap.pl?client=maps&image=34v09p22

.......is the URL that works for me but I can't seem to get the
map to scale.

> This is a new one, and has some interesting items:  Clearview Loop
> and Dormont Wye are as we knew them, but Castle Shannon was quite
> different.   The map shows each individual track and switch, and
> stops are shown on the interurban lines.  I find of interest the
> Railroad St. heading south from Castle Shannon. 
> Original Pittsburgh and Southern alignment??

> Rt. 42/43 trackage on Broadway was still in a median through
> Beechview, and it was single track Potomac Ave. to Dormont Wye
> with a passing track at Dormont St./Ave.(??).  Didn't browse the
> interurban line trackage through Fairhaven.

	A couple years ago, after you and // or Don had sent me printed
copies of the platts, I had pointed out that the 42/38  *seemed* 
to have been on center of the highway prw  *at--one--time*  thru
Beechview but I was roundly and rudely trounced for such an
observation as I was trounced about a listing of derails from a
map   ---   You can't read maps, Jim, that is just a
cartographers mistake   ---   but this, too, was later proven
correct.    Similar incidents have happened not a few times.@:)

	Charleroi line originally used the 42/38A as routing to and from
Pgh.

	We have also discussed the interurbans in fair detail  --  has
already been listed that Brookside was the first siding on the
Washington line OB of Wash.Jct. and that Santa Barbara was added
for truncated Drake service (just as McKinley Park and Edgebrook
sidings were added  *about*  the same time as Santa Barbara.)

	And has already been pointed out here that Castle Shannon loop
was added about 1948 and that a wye existed here before and that
CS yard had somewhat different layout.

	Interesting how others who attach themselves to Big Stars can
make totally bogus claims and they go unchallenged.    I
challenged in the form of questions to steer in a direction, but
the individual dug in heels all the more.    Info was Totally
Bogus   ---   Totally Wrong   ---   yet it went completely
unchallenged.

	Mucho Hot Air here and even bad information   ---   and even the
gurus make mistakes.

	No apology for being so pointed; some things need to be said
sometimes; not interested in a continuing thread nor a pat on the
back!

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