[PRCo] Re: Trolley wire Guards

[Fred Schneider]

Johntown wrapped PCC 406 around a locomotive too.

 The WCF&N does not belong on the list.  You said at West Tower which
explains why a wire guard is superfluous.  It was an interlocking which
could only grant right of way to trains on one railroad at a time.

I personally do not know enough about the V vs. PE crossing except that we
need to look closer at that before we include it on a list of important
crossings without wire guards.   Vernon St. was south of Butte Street
Yard, therefore PE was running not only passenger but also freight trains
there.  It was a transfer point for Watts to LARy cars (well, maybe not
transfer point but a place where you could change).  Yes, the Catalina
boat trains, Santa Ana, Long Beach and San Pedro cars probably ran through
without stopping.  But the question in my mind is, was the crossing
protected by a flagman or by signals?

Jim Holland wrote:

> Good Morning!
>
> > Bob Rathke wrote:
>
> > I suspect that the wire fences were used over
> > mainline railroad tracks, not tracks that had
> > only occasional rail service.
>
> > Bob 11/30/03
>
>         On Central near Dupont, JTC cross the railroad under Overhead
> Guards - looks like simple switching track for RR  --  no
> crossing gates and  *possibly*  only lights to guard crossing.
>
>         The WCF&N Interurban crosses the Illinois Central main at West
> Tower on northwest side of Waterloo WithOut trolley guards.
>
>         And LATL V-line crossed 4-track PE to Watts, both without
> trolley guards.    Imagine a 50-mph Blimp hitting a PCC!
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