[PRCo] Rail?!.?!.?!.......
Jim Holland
PghPCC at pacbell.net
Mon Dec 29 16:06:15 EST 2003
Good Morning!
> Fred Schneider wrote:
> Absolutely right Boris. But there are a few of us
> out there who don't bury our heads in the sand.
> I accept fact.......
> One of worst examples in the US is San Jose.
> Baltimore isn't so good either.
> St. Louis looks good when you look at
> the number of passengers they haul,
> but when you are charging the lowest
> per mile fare in the country,
> it really isn't all that good.
I hinted at this in my Trolley--Fare column on San Jose in
1988 -- dodging tumble weeds taking photos and homes at least
1/2-mile from the line! I could not see justification for
light rail.
BUFFALO has been discussed here (because I brought it up) --
MUCH DISCUSSION -- as a GOOD--EXAMPLE of BAD rail
transit. Subject of news commentary in Salt Lake to discredit
building rail there.
I personally have said we are repeating history in this
regard. *Trolley--Car--Treasury* shows a photo of a town sans
trolleycars except on PostCards -- postcard obviously altered
to suit the Fad! I have said much of the lrv explosion in the
US is just that -- FAD in keeping up with the Smyth's.
Cincinnati -- subway partially // nearly built, Never Used in
1930s! Other examples as well.
ON---THE---OTHER--HAND:::::::
TrolleyCars DID exist.
I ENJOYED TrolleyCars and their existance in Pgh. (but ala
above do Not Necessarily support future rail.)
And since TrolleyCars Did Exist, I enjoy CELEBRATING that
Existance (-ence?) --
**-- I am NOT interested in the warts,
**-- I am NOT interested in the
public-hatred of trolleycars,
**-- I am NOT interested in whether or not
the trolleycarss could be justified on
--** economic,
--** political, or
--** other basis --
THE *FACT* remains --
**-- the TROLLEYCAR Lines Existed --
**-- They Were There --
**-- I rode TrolleyCars when they provided
an EXTREMELY HIGH percentage of ALL
public transit in Pgh.
I want to
**-- Celebrate That Existance ---
**-- Remember Their Existance Fondly
I remember TrolleyCars of the past, appreciate the services of
TrolleyCars of the past, have little interest in TrolleyCars of
the present and//or future. Have oft stated that here.
STRICTLY PERSONAL --- NOT comments on merits necessarily.
> We also have some very good schemes ...
> San Francisco's F line.
Signed into that division to operate PCCs on J-line during
conversion of subway signalling. Threw-up the run and returned
to TrolleyCoaches because I do NOT like operating that line.
Flaky passengers, HORRIBLE traffic. May be working for
passenger count, but slow, tedious, boring.
> Pittsburgh.......
GOOD Example of BAD Overhead Design -- MY opinion is
({[pat]}) purposely constructed OOOGLY Overhead to denigrate
rail transit in hopes of preventing more rail construction.
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Jim
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