[PRCo] Re: MATA

[John Swindler]

Thank you for the clarification, Bob.  I guess I can't get away with trying 
to plead a 'senior moment'  - again.

But now have another question.  "Turntable"????????

I don't comprehend.  There's a weight and technology difference between a 
San Francisco cable car/(and horse cars) and a streetcar with heavy electric 
motors, longer body and overhead wires.

This should be interesting.

John




>From: "Bob Rathke" <bobrathke at attbi.com>
>Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>Subject: [PRCo] MATA
>Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 16:10:59 -0600
>
>
>I'm told by the folks at MATA that they uncovered and used the original 
>rail
>on McKinney Avenue when the trolley system was reactivated in the late 80s.
>However, by the late 1990s the pavement was in pretty bad shape, especially
>in the area where most of the restaurants, apartment buildings and stores
>are located, so a couple of years ago they totally replaced the pavement 
>and
>rail in that section.  This was a major construction project, and affected
>street traffic and trolley service, even shutting it down for a while in
>early 2000.
>
>I was in Dallas in October, 2002 and rode the MATA trolleys on the new
>extension to the north which ends in the middle of a street near the DART
>subway station; they plan to install a turntable there which will allow
>operation of the PCCs.  They also have plans to extend the southern end of
>the line on a loop in city streets which are adjacent to the DART surface
>lines.
>
>MATA apparently is now getting assistance from DART, and so the trolley
>rides are free.
>
>Bob 1/3/02
>
>-----------------------------
>----- Original Message -----
>From: John Swindler <j_swindler at hotmail.com>
>To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 1:17 PM
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Loop trackage
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > A question concerning McKinney Ave. operation.  Is it really the 
>original
> > rail, or was it found necessary to eventually relay most of the track on
> > McKinney Ave.???
> >
> > Just trying to recall a comment heard about ten years ago.  (which means
> > it's not a primary source anyway, but second or third hand).
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Bob Rathke" <bobrathke at attbi.com>
> > >Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > >To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> > >Subject: [PRCo] Loop trackage
> > >Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 16:19:00 -0600
> > >
> > >The new issue of Trolley Fare states that PTM needs to fabricate rail 
>for
> > >the loop at the north end of the Museum line.  Did they consider
>salvaging
> > >loop trackwork from an abandoned trolley line in Pittsburgh, or were 
>the
> > >Arden requirements for a larger radius loop?  I suspect that it is 
>easier
> > >to fabricate a loop - even from old rail -  rather than trying to 
>remove
> > >and renew an old loop. The Route 5 loop still exists under the asphalt
> > >pavement on Spring Hill, and the Route 1 loop may still be in place 
>too.
> > >
> > >Trackage for the McKinney Ave. trolley line in Dallas was under the
> > >pavement for about 30 years before it was put back into service.
> > >
> > >Have a Happy New Year!
>-- Trailing quotes stripped by Listar --


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