[PRCo] Re: PRC Interurban Pass Points

[Jim Holland]

Good Morning!

>> j_swindler at hotmail.com writes:

>> John S., (observer of weekday 76 Hamilton cars sitting at
>> Jane St. used to put late motormen back on-time).


> HRBran99 at aol.com wrote:

> These cars/buses (depending on type of equipment on route) were
> known as a "COT."    That is, "Car On Time" or "Coach On Time."
> The COT car/bus would sit at the end of the line until needed
> to place a late vehicle on time.

	Have often seen operators trade cars enroute to get back on schedule
(happened once at Park Blvd. on the 42-Dormont, 1.5 stops inbound of
the end of the line!!)    But I have Never seen a car sitting at the
Dormont wye, Nor Clearview Loop, Nor Drake Nor Simmons Loops waiting
for an off-schedule car to be put back on time.

	Round-trips on 42-Dormont were 1-hour Including Layover with cars
every 15-minutes mid-day weekdays at 09, 24, 39, and 54 after the hour
inbound.    *Never*  saw an idle car sitting at the end of the line.

	And have been on  Many A Car  that was running behind schedule in Pgh
and most of those times they just ran it out!    Maybe easier to do in
South Hills with Tunnel and all the prw.

	When 1723 derailed at Bon Air OB on Mother's Day (1960--1962) an
operator at SHJ was assigned another interurban car to replace this
car which was sent around downtown first and then out the 38-line.   
I have detailed that explanation here before.    But a car was not
sitting online waiting for such an event.    THAT  would be extremely
expensive  --  an extra car on each line just waiting for a
happening!    Maybe it was used on certain street running lines where
it was known that traffic delays could really impact schedules.

>>> Fred Schneider wrote:

>>> This was previously discussed on this list.    We have West Penn
>>> crew schedules.    We were told by Art Ellis that PRC did the
>>> same thing.    Reason?    Because two round trips on a 2.5-hour
>>> one-way run does not equal 8 hours, it equals 10-hours.    So
>>> you don't make two entire round trips.    And neither does the
>>> guy from the other barn.    You swap cars at some siding which
>>> will give each of you an eight hour day.    It's cheaper than
>>> paying time and half for overtime.    Same reasons you had street
>>> reliefs when you drove buses on those long routes in Chicago.  fws

	Forcing all Runs to be stricly 8-hours is Not necessarily the
cheapest way to go   ---   overhead costs for Operators include
benefits and more drivers for 8-hour runs equals more costs than
paying  *some*  overtime.    John might know of an equation to figure
the balancing point in this equation.

	And an operator doesn't have to make 2-Round Trips depending on what
barn he is scheduled from.    He could start his day by making a
relief inbound and end it by making the relief outbound.    Even at
Washington, with reliefs possibly made at Tylerdale, this would knock
about 45-minutes time off a Run considering a 25-minute layover at the
downtown Interurban Station and then travel time to and from
Tylerdale!

	I have a map which shows schedule times along the Interurbans (John
and Tom have copies of this map) and it shows the times cars are due
at each siding.    Certain sidings show that both inbound and outbound
cars are scheduled identically but that doesn't mean that cars Don't
Meet at other sidings  --  they just aren't scheduled there
identically.

	Times are not listed for sidings at Overbrook,
but for  CHARLEROI  the timings are:::::::

Washington Jct, 00  30  OB  --  29   59  IB

Crookham  30   00  OB  --  30   00  IB

Riverview   34   04  OB  --  26   56   IB

Riverview Loop/Wye   36   06  OB  --  23   53  IB

Pine Street   38   08  OB  --  21   51  IB

7th Street   40   10   OB  --  20   50  IB

First Street   44   14  OB  --  16   46  IB

Summit   55   25  OB  --  05   35  IB

Lockview   00   30  OB  --  00   30  IB

Charleroi Car House   02   32  OB  --  58   28  IB

Fifth Street Siding   05   35  OB  --  55   25  IB

New Switch   08   38  OB  --  52   22  IB

Belle Vernon   10   40  OB  --  50   20  IB

White Barn   15   45  OB  --  45   15  IB

Allenport   18   48   OB  --  42   12  IB

Roscoe Loop   25   55  OB  --  35   05  IB


	So, unless 2-cars were at Roscoe Loop most of the time (allowing for
40-minute layovers, cars here had only 10-minute layovers!


for  WASHINGTON  the timings are:::::::

Washington Jct   00   30  OB  --  29   59  IB

Brookside   06   36  OB  --  24   54  IB

Cremona   11   41  OB  --  19   49  IB

County Line   15   45  OB  --  15   45  IB

Orr   19   49   OB  --  11   41  IB

Van Eman   24   54  OB  --  06   36  IB

Richfol   28   58  OB  --  02   32  IB

Ashland Ave   30   00  OB  --  59   29  IB

Alexander   40   10  OB  --  50   20  IB

Arnold   45   15  OB  --  45   15  IB

Meadowlands   50   20  OB  --  40   10  IB

County  Home   55   25  OB  --  36   06  IB

Tylerdale Car House   58   28  OB  --  33   03  IB

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James B. Holland

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