[PRCo] Re: airport service

[Jim Holland]

Good Morning!



> Harold Geissenheimer wrote:

> Fred

> BART has an early and late airport problem also.

> When Bart originally started, to save money
> they opened later on Sundays.  This still goes on..

> They copied Muni which delayed Sunday PCC service
> to 9AM.    The difference was that Muni ran the
> all night bus later


	This is news to me.    In the latter 1970s, PCCs were out of the
barn between 4.30--5.00-AM on All Routes on All Days!

	Muni was forced to copy BART on Sundays once lrv service
commenced which means lrvs out the door about 7.00-AM on Sunday
depending on the line.    J-, K-, & M-lines would be among last
to be out in the morning since they reach the outer end of the
line is the Metro yard.    N-line is earliest since it uses
J-line to Duboce/Church, then outbound to Ocean Beach where it
leaves about 7.30-AM.    By the time the first N-line lrv gets
back to the subway, the subway has just opened.

	Muni has started lrv service much earlier on most lines as
shuttles - K-, L-, M-lines to West Portal and back - J- and N-
lines thru routed.    Don't know what they are currently doing.


> Bart does nothing

> It is not unusual for some systems to
> start later on Sunday but usually
> no airports are involved.


	The PRCo Interurban schedule effective  Monday__1957.08.14 
shows the first car leaving Drake at  8.02-AM__on__Sunday.   
First Car scheduled outbound from downtown was 8.20-AM, then
every 40--minutes until 12.40-AM.

	Library service was 24-hours with cars leaving Library at:
		12.18-AM,
		 1.18-AM,
		 2.13-AM,
		 2.43-AM,
		 4.13-AM,
		 4.48-AM, 7-Days a week, then resuming normal scheduling for
the day.

	Times for Library from downtown 7-days a week were:
		12.30-AM
		 1.00-AM
		 1.30-AM
		 2.00-AM
		 3.30-AM
		 4.00-AM
		 5.30-AM

	The PRCo schedule effective 1964.04.26 shows the first car
leaving Drake at  7.43-AM__on__Sunday.    First time for outbound
Car is 7.10-AM--40-line car from downtown and transfer to Drake
pullout at SHJ at 7.25__AM;  first actual Drake car from downtown
is 8.00-AM and every hour until Mudnight.

	Library service was 24-hours with cars leaving Library at:
		11.30-PM
		12.30-AM
		 1.00-AM
		 2.00-AM
		 3.34-AM (Time is Wood//Fifth.)

> For Bart to start early, it involves opening and
> staffing stations.


> The Baltimore subway did not run on
> Sundays until last year, The LRT could
> operate earlier without station expense


	Incidentally, Baltimore rescinded cutting all lrv service on
Thanksgiving and issued an emergency edict saying Thanksgiving
lrv Service Will Operate.


> Chicago and NYC run all night

> Harold Geissenheimer


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