[PRCo] Trolleyville's Pittsburgh Car

Ken & Tracie kjosephson at sprintmail.com
Tue Oct 14 01:28:50 EDT 2003


Ooops, I hit send before typing my reply. I am also "Bcc-ing" this to an unnamed member of IRM for his take on this.

rogertrolley.1 at juno.com wrote:

> What are the chances of PTM getting that PRC car away from Trolleyville. Maybe in the stew that outfit is in, they would allow it to return to its home grounds. Maybe a trade for something else or monetary consideration. Worth a try. They seem to be trying to get Cleveland to accept them as a historic car operation as they have been running cars on the waterfront line there.

I wonder how long a historic operation will last when bored teenagers start carving graffiti into the woodwork, interior paint and glass? This is already a problem at Orange Empire on their own demonstration railway.

As for trading cars with Trolleyville, there is one deal I'm aware of that has been pending for nearly ten years. I have no idea why it's still tied up.

When I suggested East Troy, Fox River or IRM approach Trolleyville for some of their duplicate equipment, members of those groups suggested I was asking them to loot a cathedral. How many identical Fox River light weights or 1945 CA&E coaches does one preservation group need? Okay, a train of steel CA&E cars would be pretty impressive, but you can't m.u. the Fox River cars.

Is Trolleyville's Pittsburgh High Floor a single or double ender? I believe it's number 4145. I know PTM has both M-452 and M-454. The way I understand it (and I could be wrong) the former is slated for eventual restoration and the latter is slated to be scrapped for parts. Kind of sad when you realize that M-454 saw all that fan trip service during the 1960s.

K.



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