[PRCo] Re: 84 Larimer/96 East Liberty

[John Swindler]

>From: Joshua Dunfield <Joshua_Dunfield at mlist-0.sp.cs.cmu.edu>
>Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: 84 Larimer/96 East Liberty Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 
>14:34:22 -0500
>
>John Swindler wrote:
> > As for system map, the printed July 1995 PAT map is fairly good, but the 
>one
> > available at PAT's website is an embarrassment.  Looks like some 
>consultant
> > tried to make a PAT system map using the London Transport underground 
>style.
> >    That's not 'cutting edge' technology, that's ...  well, best not go
> > there.
>
>The printed system maps are in the same almost totally useless style.
>All they're good for is getting a list of a dozen or so routes, so you
>can waste time looking up the maps individually.  (The printed maps
>helpfully include an explanation of the numbering system*, but that's
>the only redeeming feature.)


The only printed PAT map I had readily available was the July 1995 edition.  
That was somewhat useful.  Then went to PAT website, and was surprised at 
what PAT had posted as their system map.  I assume that PAT has a hardcopy 
version of what's posted on their website??


>
>Amusingly, at least as of a few months ago, the rather outdated system
>maps posted in the subway stations have been left alone.  Maybe
>someone at PAT realizes that a well designed 1995 map is more useful
>than a badly designed 2004 one.  Or they just haven't gotten around
>to it, sort of like the "To Drake" signs being left alone until 2002
>or so.
>
>* Speaking of which, does anyone know of inconsistently numbered
>PAT routes other than 56U (should go downtown but doesn't) and,
>formerly, 71B (which didn't go downtown, but was fixed by being
>renumbered 74B)?
>


Thought there was something in 16 series from northside, and also something 
from south hills that went to Oakland area.  But that was some 30 years ago.

John