[PRCo] Clearview__Loop,__38-Mt.Lebanon__Line

[James B. Holland]

Ken & Tracie wrote:

> I was riding that car with Jim Holland. I forget why the sign was in 
> the "42 Dormont" position. Heck, Jim doesn't even remember spending 
> the time with me. :-)


I  Still  Try to remember that time  --  but any memory is forced.       
Can't understand why I can't remember!       Yes, twas Christmas 1976  
--  last Christmas in the east.       Within 40-days I was working for 
the SF-Muni!!!!!!!       Maybe that was on my mind although I believe I 
did not know at Christmas!

Could be the 42-Dormont sign is set up as that is all the further the 
car goes when it Does return outbound.       This prevents forgetting to 
turn it later.       That is the way the Drake and Library cars did on 
Sundays  --  they were interlined so it was inbound on one and outbound 
on the other.        At the outer loop the sign was changed to the other 
route as a rule so they wouldn't forget so to do when downtown.       
Since service on Drake and Library was hourly on Sunday, thus 3-minute 
headway from Wash_Jct to downtown and return, it took only 3-vehicles to 
cover the schedules by interlining.       It would take 4-cars to do the 
same hourly schedule if cars remained dedicated to one route only  --  
25% savings this way.

> If I'm not mistaken, it may have been a short turn car that was sent 
> to the end of the line due to all the traffic. It was right around 
> Christmas and perhaps all the holiday shoppers disrupted the 
> scheduling. Maybe the motorman had something on his mind and didn't 
> position the roll sign correctly. Or perhaps something happened at the 
> Dormont wye, forcing the car to the Mt. Lebanon loop.
>
> Jim?
>
> K.
>
> P.S.- Taken December, 1976. And car 1730, the "Sunburst Car" sure was 
> squealing when it took sharp curves for some reason...or was that on 
> my 1979 visit? But I do recall it was very noisy on sharp curves when 
> compared to some of the other cars during one of those visits.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Robb" <bill937ca at yahoo.ca>
> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 5:43 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Another 1/27/67 photo
>
>
>> These are from The Ken Josephson collection at the bottom of page 1.
>>
>> In the loop:
>>
>> http://206.103.49.193/pitts/htm/pitt380.htm
>>
>> Mod Desire in the background:
>>
>> http://206.103.49.193/pitts/htm/pitt390.htm
>>
>> This car should have turned back at the wye if it was a 42 Dormont. 
>> It appears to be the third car in the first photo.
>>
>> http://206.103.49.193/pitts/htm/pitt389.htm
>>
>> Same car (?) leaving the loop:
>>
>> http://206.103.49.193/pitts/htm/pitt175.htm
>>
>> Entering the loop:
>>
>> http://206.103.49.193/pitts/htm/pitt406.htm
>>
>> Bill Robb
>>
>>> -----------------------------
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: <AProchek at aol.com>
>>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 4:19 PM
>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Another 1/27/67 photo
>>>
>>>> are there any pictures out there of the loop at Mt.Lebanon? I have 
>>>> a sentimental attachment to it and I can't find any pics of it and 
>>>> it doesn't show up in the Pittsburgh Rwy south side video.
>>>
>>> RR
>>