[PRCo] Re: Clearview__Loop,__38-Mt.Lebanon__Line

[John Swindler]

>James B. Holland commented:
>
>Could be the 42-Dormont sign is set up as that is all the further the
>car goes when it Does return outbound.       This prevents forgetting to
>turn it later.       That is the way the Drake and Library cars did on
>Sundays  --  they were interlined so it was inbound on one and outbound
>on the other.        At the outer loop the sign was changed to the other
>route as a rule so they wouldn't forget so to do when downtown.


Extremely vague recollection that sign was supposed to be changed at 
Washington Jct. inbound, but operators normally changed it at Drake or 
Simmons.  That vague recollection might be from changing the sign for the 
operator while Sunday/Holiday pass riding.

>Since service on Drake and Library was hourly on Sunday, thus 3-minute
>headway from Wash_Jct to downtown and return, it took only 3-vehicles to
>cover the schedules by interlining.       It would take 4-cars to do the
>same hourly schedule if cars remained dedicated to one route only  --
>25% savings this way.
>


So how many cars are required for the 38 minute Sunday headway on 47L 
today???

How are reliefs handled?

And why the 19 minute Sunday headway on 42S???  These are not user friendly 
headways.  Is there a reason???

John




> > If I'm not mistaken, it may have been a short turn car that was sent
> > to the end of the line due to all the traffic. It was right around
> > Christmas and perhaps all the holiday shoppers disrupted the
> > scheduling. Maybe the motorman had something on his mind and didn't
> > position the roll sign correctly. Or perhaps something happened at the
> > Dormont wye, forcing the car to the Mt. Lebanon loop.
> >
> > Jim?
> >
> > K.
> >
> > P.S.- Taken December, 1976. And car 1730, the "Sunburst Car" sure was
> > squealing when it took sharp curves for some reason...or was that on
> > my 1979 visit? But I do recall it was very noisy on sharp curves when
> > compared to some of the other cars during one of those visits.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bill Robb" <bill937ca at yahoo.ca>
> > To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 5:43 PM
> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: Another 1/27/67 photo
> >
> >
> >> These are from The Ken Josephson collection at the bottom of page 1.
> >>
> >> In the loop:
> >>
> >> http://206.103.49.193/pitts/htm/pitt380.htm
> >>
> >> Mod Desire in the background:
> >>
> >> http://206.103.49.193/pitts/htm/pitt390.htm
> >>
> >> This car should have turned back at the wye if it was a 42 Dormont.
> >> It appears to be the third car in the first photo.
> >>
> >> http://206.103.49.193/pitts/htm/pitt389.htm
> >>
> >> Same car (?) leaving the loop:
> >>
> >> http://206.103.49.193/pitts/htm/pitt175.htm
> >>
> >> Entering the loop:
> >>
> >> http://206.103.49.193/pitts/htm/pitt406.htm
> >>
> >> Bill Robb
> >>
> >>> -----------------------------
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: <AProchek at aol.com>
> >>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> >>> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 4:19 PM
> >>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Another 1/27/67 photo
> >>>
> >>>> are there any pictures out there of the loop at Mt.Lebanon? I have
> >>>> a sentimental attachment to it and I can't find any pics of it and
> >>>> it doesn't show up in the Pittsburgh Rwy south side video.
> >>>
> >>> RR
> >>
>
>