[PRCo] Re: Oops

[James B. Holland]

John Swindler wrote:

> Didn't car 1000 split the Carson St. crossover switch while backing 
> into the remnant of rt. 32 on a June, 1958 PERC fantrip? But not 
> nearly as spectacular.


Possibly done on Porpoise    ----    but maybe not as back truck was  
*on--track*  so to speak while front truck took the X-Over!       Have a 
color photo of same.       Car 1000 was heading inbound from the tunnel 
and backed onto the 32 and thus the X-Over.       Were You There???????

1958.06.15    1000    PRCo    Monongahela Incline, 22, 32, 36, 38, 38A, 
40, 42, 55, 56, 58, 60, 62, 67, 68, 75, 76, 87, 88, 98.


Here in SF we have a wye at the exit to the Geneva barn.       As one 
faces the point, cars would back into the yard from the left leg and 
exit the yard on the right leg.       In the early 1970s, a turn was 
built into track 3 so it was not necessary to back in any more so the 
turnout at the head of the wye was used in one position only during the 
1970s which produced heavy wear  --  very deep grooves worn into the 
head of the rail at the mate.       The point and mate appeared to be 
from the 1890s  --  very antique  --  with point in right rail.       
When the M-Ocean View was extended to the barn in the 1980s the cars 
could pull out directly to route by using the left leg of this wye  
(instead of dead heading to West Portal and wyeing there to go outbound 
on route.)       Front truck of an M-line pullout did fine to the left 
leg of the wye  --  back truck forced to right leg of wye apparently by 
deep grooves in the mate so the wheels on the right rail went Up And 
Over the point!       This trackage rebuilt with advent of lrvs.


Jim__Holland


>> From: "Boris Cefer" <westinghouse at iol.cz>
>> Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Oops
>> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:11:03 +0100
>>
>> Only two photos? With 666 PCCs?
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Edward H. Lybarger" <trams at adelphia.net>
>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 11:18 PM
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Oops
>>
>>
>>> There might be one or two. Not as spectacular, though.
>>>
>>> Ed
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of Boris
>>> Cefer
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 12:09 PM
>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Oops
>>>
>>>
>>> Does exist any similar photo from Pittsburgh?
>>>
>>> With the Tatra cars in their original condition (I have no clue what 
>>> Russians did to the truck wires) this would mean to open the floor 
>>> and repair the damaged wiring to the rear truck. Tatras were not 
>>> designed for such sharp curves and the truck wires are shorter than 
>>> on American PCCs.
>>
>>>
>>> Boris
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Bob Rathke" <bobrathke at comcast.net>
>>> To: "Pittsburgh Trolley List" <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:05 AM
>>> Subject: [PRCo] Oops
>>>
>>>
>>>> See trolley photo from Moscow at:
>>>>
>>>> http://parovoz.com/gallery/20041209_9198.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Bob 12/20/04
>>>