[PRCo] Re: Oops

[John Swindler]

>From: "James B. Holland" <PRCoPCC at P-R-Co.com>
>Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Oops
>Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:07:51 -0800
>
>John Swindler wrote:
>
> > Didn't car 1000 split the Carson St. crossover switch while backing
> > into the remnant of rt. 32 on a June, 1958 PERC fantrip? But not
> > nearly as spectacular.
>
>
>Possibly done on Porpoise    ----    but maybe not as back truck was
>*on--track*  so to speak while front truck took the X-Over!       Have a
>color photo of same.       Car 1000 was heading inbound from the tunnel
>and backed onto the 32 and thus the X-Over.       Were You There???????



Yes

Don't think John Baxter would allow that on 'porpoise'

More likely suspect the photo stop was to be closer to front of incline.

John


>
>1958.06.15    1000    PRCo    Monongahela Incline, 22, 32, 36, 38, 38A,
>40, 42, 55, 56, 58, 60, 62, 67, 68, 75, 76, 87, 88, 98.
>
>
>Here in SF we have a wye at the exit to the Geneva barn.       As one
>faces the point, cars would back into the yard from the left leg and
>exit the yard on the right leg.       In the early 1970s, a turn was
>built into track 3 so it was not necessary to back in any more so the
>turnout at the head of the wye was used in one position only during the
>1970s which produced heavy wear  --  very deep grooves worn into the
>head of the rail at the mate.       The point and mate appeared to be
>from the 1890s  --  very antique  --  with point in right rail.
>When the M-Ocean View was extended to the barn in the 1980s the cars
>could pull out directly to route by using the left leg of this wye
>(instead of dead heading to West Portal and wyeing there to go outbound
>on route.)       Front truck of an M-line pullout did fine to the left
>leg of the wye  --  back truck forced to right leg of wye apparently by
>deep grooves in the mate so the wheels on the right rail went Up And
>Over the point!       This trackage rebuilt with advent of lrvs.
>
>
>Jim__Holland
>
>
> >> From: "Boris Cefer" <westinghouse at iol.cz>
> >> Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> >> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Oops
> >> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:11:03 +0100
> >>
> >> Only two photos? With 666 PCCs?
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Edward H. Lybarger" <trams at adelphia.net>
> >> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 11:18 PM
> >> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Oops
> >>
> >>
> >>> There might be one or two. Not as spectacular, though.
> >>>
> >>> Ed
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> >>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of 
>Boris
> >>> Cefer
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 12:09 PM
> >>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Oops
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Does exist any similar photo from Pittsburgh?
> >>>
> >>> With the Tatra cars in their original condition (I have no clue what
> >>> Russians did to the truck wires) this would mean to open the floor
> >>> and repair the damaged wiring to the rear truck. Tatras were not
> >>> designed for such sharp curves and the truck wires are shorter than
> >>> on American PCCs.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Boris
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Bob Rathke" <bobrathke at comcast.net>
> >>> To: "Pittsburgh Trolley List" <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 2:05 AM
> >>> Subject: [PRCo] Oops
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> See trolley photo from Moscow at:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://parovoz.com/gallery/20041209_9198.jpg
> >>>>
> >>>> Bob 12/20/04
> >>>
>
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