[PRCo] Re: PAAC____({[pat]})

[John Swindler]

Perhaps, Bob, by way of explanation:  Port Authority of Allegheny County is 
the official corporate name.  The Pa. Dept of State uses terms such as 
t/d/b/a (trading/doing/business/as) to describe an unofficial term by which 
the authority is normally known.

In Pittsburgh's case, PAAC had a "Port Division" which received funds from 
PennDOT for waterways development, and a "Transit Division".  (this is where 
we need Harold to correct my vague recollections).  PAT was just a marketing 
term used by the "Transit Division".  But to expand on what Fred the third 
mentioned, when Joe Grata mentioned "PAT" in his column, the public knew 
what he meant.

My favorite that I deal with  is:  "Transportation and Motor Buses for 
Public Use Authority d.b.a. Altoona Metro Transit (Amtran)"

It's really a nit-picking issue which I suspect the rest of you do not have 
to deal with:  Making sure that the correct corporate names (and addresses) 
are used in contracts.  It gets to be a real pain at times with small 
transit providers.

By the way, is PAAC/PAT trying to get away from the term Port Authority 
Transit?  The website is www.ridegold.com and recent public items use the 
slogen:  PORT AUTHORITY- connecting people to life.  (without the 'transit') 
  But for our generation it will always be known as PAT.

John





>From: "Dietrich, Robert J." <Robert.Dietrich at unisys.com>
>Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: PAAC____({[pat]})
>Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 07:54:33 -0500
>
>I remember the contest and I remember it was won by a woman - no, her
>name was not Pat.  I believe the contest was held before the takeover as
>part of all the hype about how good it was going to be when the
>government started running things.
>
>Bob
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of Jim
>Holland
>Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 6:46 AM
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>Subject: [PRCo] PAAC____({[pat]})
>
>Good Morning!
>
>
> > John Swindler wrote:
>
> > Not so, Fred, concerning PAAC.
>
> > Public still sees PAAC in reference to public transit
> > in Pittsburgh.     Try looking for transit statistics
> > on Pittsburgh at the FTA website.     Also the front
> > cover of the 1995 system map and the return address
> > used on any of the brochures issued for current
> > construction project - such as "Connextions: Stage II LRT".
> > Don't have any Pittsburgh transit schedules to check, but
> > also suspect they will be identified as issued by PAAC,
> > not PAT.
>
>	The cover of an Interurban schedule dated
>1965.02.14 has  PAT - Port Authority Transit near the top
>but the address near the bottom has PAAC spelled out!
>
>	A schedule for 1985.07.07 has PaTransit near the
>top but with the address inside is PAAC spelled out.
>
>	({[pat]})  would be like a Division of PAAC??!!
>
>John:	Do you remember us discussing this before?
>		Thought much had been quoted concerning
>	the formation of PAAC  --  ({[pat]})  but
>		can't seem to find same.
>
>
>
>
> > Also, the name PAAC (Port Authority of Allegheny County)
> > is used with all contracts and grant payments to the
> > primary transit operator in Pittsburgh.    PAT is never used.
>
> > John
>
>
>
>
> >> From: Fred Schneider <fschnei at supernet.com>
>
> >> The county condemned PRC and 28 other bus companies
> >> to create the transit division of the
> >> Port Authority of Allegheny County.     The entire
> >> PAAC name rapidly disappeared from anything the
> >> public saw and evolved into PAT.     I think only
> >> Deere Brothers and Pittsburgh Railways fought
> >> the county in judicial proceedings. PRC lost;
> >> they were fighting to get the county to take everything,
> >> just like they did with the bus companies.  PAT only
> >> took what they wanted ... some cars, some buses,
> >> some real estate.
>
>
>
>
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>
>Jim
>
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