[PRCo] Re: PAAC____({[pat]})

[Harold Geissenheimer]

Greetings
If PAAC or someting like it had not been formed, there would be
little or no public transiut in Pgh.  It could have been a department or
city or county government. 

Harold Geissenheimer

Dietrich, Robert J. wrote:

>I remember the contest and I remember it was won by a woman - no, her
>name was not Pat.  I believe the contest was held before the takeover as
>part of all the hype about how good it was going to be when the
>government started running things.
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>Bob
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>From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of Jim
>Holland
>Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 6:46 AM
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>Subject: [PRCo] PAAC____({[pat]})
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>Good Morning!
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>>John Swindler wrote:
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>>Not so, Fred, concerning PAAC.
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>>Public still sees PAAC in reference to public transit
>>in Pittsburgh.     Try looking for transit statistics
>>on Pittsburgh at the FTA website.     Also the front
>>cover of the 1995 system map and the return address
>>used on any of the brochures issued for current
>>construction project - such as "Connextions: Stage II LRT".
>>Don't have any Pittsburgh transit schedules to check, but
>>also suspect they will be identified as issued by PAAC,
>>not PAT.
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>	The cover of an Interurban schedule dated
>1965.02.14 has  PAT - Port Authority Transit near the top
>but the address near the bottom has PAAC spelled out!
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>	A schedule for 1985.07.07 has PaTransit near the
>top but with the address inside is PAAC spelled out.
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>	({[pat]})  would be like a Division of PAAC??!!
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>John:	Do you remember us discussing this before?
>		Thought much had been quoted concerning
>	the formation of PAAC  --  ({[pat]})  but
>		can't seem to find same.
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>>Also, the name PAAC (Port Authority of Allegheny County)
>>is used with all contracts and grant payments to the
>>primary transit operator in Pittsburgh.    PAT is never used.
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>>John
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>>>From: Fred Schneider <fschnei at supernet.com>
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>>>The county condemned PRC and 28 other bus companies
>>>to create the transit division of the
>>>Port Authority of Allegheny County.     The entire
>>>PAAC name rapidly disappeared from anything the
>>>public saw and evolved into PAT.     I think only
>>>Deere Brothers and Pittsburgh Railways fought
>>>the county in judicial proceedings. PRC lost;
>>>they were fighting to get the county to take everything,
>>>just like they did with the bus companies.  PAT only
>>>took what they wanted ... some cars, some buses,
>>>some real estate.
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